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LakeShoreLimited
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Well, I could open up the draft in Firefox, but I had already pasted it in Chrome. Does that make a difference? I have no idea; there seems to be no consistent experiences here. What happens for me may not be what happens for you.  Try it in Chrome and see what happens. You still have a few weeks to enter the competition.

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Someone said it works in Mozilla ( Firefox ) but I haven't tested it yet.  It's worth a go if that's not what you're already using, and if you're willing to go to the trouble of a second browser.  I already use three to keep my different pen names logged in elsewhere, so it's no biggie for me, assuming it does work.

It did work in Chrome (finally) but they're still working out a lot of bugs. I finally got a story into drafts mode (it took a month to get that far) but I'm not going to submit it until they fiddle with the site some more.  Everybody has been having different experiences with this site - it's very weird, I know.  I almost gave up on it but than a moderator said that they had fixed the drafts issue, and he was right on that count.

Mother-in-law worked for me, although I had to "create" it as a new tag. I don't see that white space on the couple of published stories I checked. Ideally, the "preview" mode - I think that's what I'd call it - should show the story exactly as it will appear when published. The series titles don't show the previous story in preview mode, but rather the one before it - two stories back, in other words. The old "checkbox" method of linking stories in a series was better, but I don't think that is coming back.

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It looks like they finally did fix the submission process. Except that huge white space below the story is still there for the moment. For tags, if you write a new tag name in that box, you should get a message saying "Create romance"? or whatever it is you want to use but wasn't there before. Then the new tag should be in a drop-down menu.  (Did I explain it clearly?) For the author's note, it should be exactly the same as pasting in the story itself. Cut and paste whatever text you want into that box. I think there is a 500 word limit, however.  


Thank you for this but I seem to be having trouble with tags today, even using drop down and create. For instance, I wanted to use mother-in-law but (after several attempts) had to settle for motherinlaw. I might try to change the tags to what I actually want at some point before submitting. I do not think I am doing anything differently to my other recent stories, it is just not functioning properly for me today.


I always type direct to site (and save). I have done for my previous 199 stories so intend number 200 to be the same. I do not often have an authors note but was planning a bit of explanation for this story, but it is not essential.


Thanks again.


After a month they seem to be slowly fixing things The white space under the story doesn't appear in the drafts mode, but it appears in - what would you call it, the mode that appears after you save the draft. I would assume the published story would also have it, but I don't know. Dan at one point said that they would fix that. I haven't looked at the other stories on here yet to see if they have the same space.


It's possible that hyphenated words like mother-in-law don't work as tags yet. I'll have to experiment and see. They should have a fix for that.


You can type in the author's notes the same way you type in the story. For some reason, I have had them on almost every story I've posted here. 

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I have now got as far as starting the story again and have been able to save a draft. I still have problems getting the tags that I actually want, despite using the drop down. I have NOT yet tried adding an authors note, I might decide not to because it is probably not essential.

It looks like they finally did fix the submission process. Except that huge white space below the story is still there for the moment. For tags, if you write a new tag name in that box, you should get a message saying "Create romance"? or whatever it is you want to use but wasn't there before. Then the new tag should be in a drop-down menu.  (Did I explain it clearly?) For the author's note, it should be exactly the same as pasting in the story itself. Cut and paste whatever text you want into that box. I think there is a 500 word limit, however.  
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I usually go through several, sometimes many, edits before submitting a story. I start in MS Word, but when a story is approaching doneness, I paste it into the story form here, in part to see how it's going to look.

And, of course, as several other people have already commented, ALL of the formatting disappears in the cut-and-paste. No italics, no bolding, even the vertical line spacing gets screwed up. Not helpful.

The story submission process still seems…wonky. Every time I save a story in draft, ALL of the tags disappear, as well as the Series title for a new series. And I can't figure out how to link stories within a series. There doesn't seem to be a button for that that I can see.

And I've noticed what Kistin, above, has said – so many of the stories, perhaps all of them, have these enormous white spaces at the bottom for no reason. I used to be able to gauge where I was in a story by how far down the pull-slide button on the RHS was – now that's useless as I have no idea how much white space there is. And Kis' other point, about comments, is also well-founded. FINDING where the comments are is much more difficult now. You keep scrolling farther and farther down the page, and they still don't appear.

In the story I've had published so far, the number of comments has dropped to about a tenth of what it usually is.

Part of that is because of the white space (people can't be bothered), but it's also the "Like" button. People think that liking a story is equivalent to commenting on it. As an author, I don't find them equivalent at all.

So, the story submission / publication / presentation / comment process is still wonky, and not particularly supportive of authors.

Yes, it is very glitchy. In fact, I can't even save a story as a draft - I goes directly into the "Pending - Moderator" category and I have to delete it. Before I delete - yes, I have noticed that huge white space at the bottom and the comments beyond that.  Anyway, I must have tried this about eight times in different browsers over the past week or so, and the same thing happens.

For the moment, I'm only going to submit to other sites. I'm going to ignore Lush for a while and see if they can straighten out the site - in a month? I am not a programmer, but it looks like they made a mistake by trying to use this platform. I know they didn't have the time, but they should have created a new site from scratch. 
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A lot of my stories are follow-on and sometimes they become a series. Occasionally I will use Part 2, Part 3 etc in a title but sometimes a series of stories of mine might have a variation of titles. That was fine in the past when a reader would be able to see a link to a previous or following story, not now though. I know it works if you have a series title but only one of my sets of stories has a series title. Do I need to now add a series title to each story in my many series OR is the series link coming back please?

At the moment a reader might alight on an old story of mine and not know that there may well be other stories in the series.


Just as an afterthought, even if I go in and give each series a series name, what tells a reader the order to read them in please, date of publication?

The weird thing I've noticed is that the three stories that existed before the changeover are still linked. The story posted after the changeover (it was in drafts mode at that time) is not linked to them. Yet they all have the same series title. Also, published stories don't seem to have a "link" option/checkbox available, which I think they did have before September 6.
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Interestingly.....when I submitted the report below, I watched as I pressed the 'Submit and Watch' button.  Both it AND the simple 'Submit' button were triggered as described below. So..it seems as though the same problem might exist on this page, too. (I am using Chrome here.)


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I am experiencing this same problem. I tried to submit a brand new story today. I was using Chrome. I submitted it the first time and it appeared in my 'Unpublished' folder. When I went back to edit it, it was gone...nothing there. So, I redid it. 

When I pushed the Save Draft for the second attempt, it did not go to the 'Unpublished' folder. It seemed to disappear again. So I did it a third time. It also disappeared. When I dug a little deeper, I found that 2 drafts had been 'submitted' and were waiting for moderator approval. 

I deleted those 2 drafts and tried a 4th time. This time I noticed that when I pushed the Save Draft button, both that button AND the Submit button were triggered and the little 'loading' symbol was spinning on both buttons. That draft also went through as Submitted. 

At that point I had made all the edits I really needed, so I left it for approval, but this is a major problem, so I wanted to put in this report. 

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Yes, it will go to the very end of the "published "folder," (with the "Waiting for Moderator Approval" notice) which is why I had trouble finding it the first time. If it was truly a draft, it should be in the unpublished folder. Interesting that yours seemed to  be duplicated with two copies - how could that be? I've tried this maybe seven times over several days, and the same thing always happens. Each time I had to delete the story because I wasn't finished with it. 


Oh yeah, I think I've also seen the loading symbol on both buttons even though I only hit one.

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I did this yesterday with the chapters of my novel. I had them linked but not as a series so they lost the linkage in the migration.

I edited the first story and created a series name. This didn't require mods to reverify it.

I then went to the second chapter. Clicked on edit and linked it to the series name.

I then worked my way through the chapters in the correct order.

And everything was linked.

Hope it works for you. I've no idea why your story needed mods to reverify it.

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What happens if the series name already exists? I have four stories in the same series, but only three are linked. The other one, the most recent one, is not linked to anything. So I assume I can link it to the last story of the previous three?
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I use Opera, I think this is something new, though I haven't tried to save anything in the past week or so. This instance was while starting a new story.

Yes, mine was new as well. The previous story I published was a draft holdover from before September 6, which took them about three weeks to approve, but it worked. I might try it again today, but if I have to delete it again, I may wait a week for the next try. I wonder if it's worth filling out a support ticket for this issue. 
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It seems like when I hit "Save Draft" it now submits the story for publication. At least now the home page does not generate an error.

So you are the second person that I know who has reported it. Yet it doesn't seem to happen to everybody, like Nicolas mentioned above. Yesterday I tried it on Chrome, Firefox, and Edge from a desktop. If it had started in early September, then a lot of people would have mentioned it by now. A recent glitch? The widening of the "Save Draft" button - I'm sure that is happening, which would suggest the template issue that Jen mentioned above. (I don't even know what that exactly means.) I'm absolutely sure I am hitting the correct button.
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I'm not aware of people raising it as an issue. Just trying to think of a reason other than saying you probably just hit the wrong button, lol. There were some instances during beta testing where templates were slightly overlaid on each other.

I think it's only public media that shows on your profile. If you go into your media tab you can make whole albums private, or if they're in your public folder, move them to a private one.

Profile design and customisation is on the to do list for when bugs are ironed out.


Jen, I've tried it twice more and the same thing happened. Could it be my browser, my operating system? I could try another browser I guess. But if this isn't worked out, I'm not going to delete my account, but I may cease submitting anything here for a while.  Does it have something to do with right clicking versus left clicking?The operating system is old, Windows 7. Could that be it? If it works for you, then maybe it has something to do with my computer at this end. I do get that message flashed "Draft Has Been Saved" but it is submitted instead.
I tried it in Edge and Firefox too, and the same thing happens. I noticed that when I hit the "Save Draft" button, it becomes wider - really! - and could that overlap with the "Submit" button? Yet I do get that brief "Saved as Draft" message, but it is not saved as a draft. Does it sound like a problem on your end or my end? I did mention the Windows 7 operating system. Should I just wait a couple of weeks?
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I'm not aware of people raising it as an issue. Just trying to think of a reason other than saying you probably just hit the wrong button, lol. There were some instances during beta testing where templates were slightly overlaid on each other.

I think it's only public media that shows on your profile. If you go into your media tab you can make whole albums private, or if they're in your public folder, move them to a private one.

Profile design and customisation is on the to do list for when bugs are ironed out.


Jen, I've tried it twice more and the same thing happened. Could it be my browser, my operating system? I could try another browser I guess. But if this isn't worked out, I'm not going to delete my account, but I may cease submitting anything here for a while.  Does it have something to do with right clicking versus left clicking?The operating system is old, Windows 7. Could that be it? If it works for you, then maybe it has something to do with my computer at this end. I do get that message flashed "Draft Has Been Saved" but it is submitted instead.
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The first story I published on the new Lush was actually a hold-over draft from before the changeover. Now when I just tried to do a story from scratch in the new Lush - well, I hit Save Draft and there was a brief message saying "draft saved." Then when it looked at my story list, is was marked "Story Pending - Awaiting Moderator Approval." I definitely did not hit the Submit button. Shouldn't it appear in the "unpublished" category?  I did this twice and I had to delete the story twice. What am I missing here? How do I upload it as a draft?


I've just tested it and it's working okay for me. I get a message saying the story has been saved in draft and I can see it in my unpublished list.

Can you try again and try hitting the left hand side of the 'save draft' button. I wonder if maybe there is a slight overlap in the buttons or something...

Okay, I'll take a break and try it again in a couple of hours. Sorry, Jen, I believe you tested it, but a "slight overlap in the buttons?" Maybe that is true but wouldn't somebody have noticed it in the last month? By the way, how do I remove photos from the profile page gallery? If I hit "edit profile" - well, then what? Right-clicking on the photos doesn't seem to be it. Anyway, I appreciate your help.

The first story I published on the new Lush was actually a hold-over draft from before the changeover. Now when I just tried to do a story from scratch in the new Lush - well, I hit Save Draft and there was a brief message saying "draft saved." Then when it looked at my story list, is was marked "Story Pending - Awaiting Moderator Approval." I definitely did not hit the Submit button. Shouldn't it appear in the "unpublished" category?  I did this twice and I had to delete the story twice. What am I missing here? How do I upload it as a draft?

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Do you know if the back log of stories is a lot now or did something happen and my story got lost along the way.  I uploaded it tuesday and I haven't heard anything since.  

Sorry if it appears like I'm being a pain but I really don't trust this new system at all.  

BTW I also noticed that if you copy and paste your story in firefox you have to add an additional space between sentences or the sentences will run together. Unlike crome were I only had to copy and paste but that one had other issues. Like your story not even getting uploaded.   

That's odd, because in the old Lush, if I pasted from Firefox I usually had to delete space between paragraphs. I think it was mostly one "return" I'd have to remove between the paragraphs. It took a while to do but after a while I got used to it.
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We talked about this on Literotica. Nathanael West called it "excited disgust." People are fascinated with certain things, including aspects of sexuality, but then the guilt comes in and they can't admit it even to themselves. Thus they feel compelled to read about it a lot and then proclaim their disapproval.

Did Mr West express his opinion through a medium?


Yes, he did - it's in his 1939 novel The Day of the Locust. It refers to a character called, believe it or not, Homer Simpson! Supposedly the Homer Simpson we know and love did not get his name from the book. I'm not sure - the co-incidence is just too unlikely. But that's what Matt Groening claimed anyway.
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The same thing has happened to me. I put a macro up, everything seemed to go as normal but I didn't see it in my list. So I did it again, and again. It was then I noticed I had 6 pages of my stories instead of 5. And there they were, all three of them. So I deleted two and left one awaiting mods. It's still there this morning and now I have a page 6 with nothing on it. Very strange. 

Well, there was a backlog for the moderators to read, so I suspect it's going to take longer than usual for stories to get approved. The one pending story I have is still at the end of the list, and I think it's going to be there for a while. It used to be that I'd get the next story into editing mode while the previous one was still pending. I think I'm going to hold off on that for the moment.
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Whilst it is nice that my story has been found, I hope that it does not remain on my last page because anyone that wants to read my latest story will not be able to find it.

Now back on my page 1-that was fun playing hunt the story.
Yeah, the same thing is happening to me. The story is at the back of the published stories, but it still has the blue "pending" bar over it, which is sort of a contradiction! I didn't get a "we have approved your story" message yet. It seems that stories go through some kind of limbo stage before being posted? Sorry, Jen, I know you have a lot to deal with, but if you don't know why this is happening, then who does?

The only thing different is the order.

Previously stories would go for moderation, show pending status, but keep their place on your profile. Now when they're pending moderation they appear at the bottom of your stories list. When your story is published, as Paul saw above, they return to the top.

The blue pending status means your story is in the queue to be verified (yours is, I've checked).

I suspect the change might be to do with submission Vs publication date beating tweaked.


All understood now and I will know in the future. I am sure you will appreciate that it was a bit disconcerting at first to discover that a submitted story had apparently 'disappeared.' With it having been discovered by you on my last page, the fear then was that it would stay there after publication.
I suppose if I was going to make a suggestion for future changes, it would be that published and unpublished stories not be in separate categories, but rather in one list as before. It's not a deal breaker, however, and not high priority. Maybe it's just is the way the new software has to handle things.
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Whilst it is nice that my story has been found, I hope that it does not remain on my last page because anyone that wants to read my latest story will not be able to find it.

Now back on my page 1-that was fun playing hunt the story.
Yeah, the same thing is happening to me. The story is at the back of the published stories, but it still has the blue "pending" bar over it, which is sort of a contradiction! I didn't get a "we have approved your story" message yet. It seems that stories go through some kind of limbo stage before being posted? Sorry, Jen, I know you have a lot to deal with, but if you don't know why this is happening, then who does?
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The bug that previously wouldn't let a story which was saved as a draft then be submitted has been fixed.

You can save stories as a draft and work on them later. You can then submit them once you're ready.

Or you can write a story directly into the editor and submit it straight away. It's up to you.

You can copy and paste from e.g. a word document, but like the previous lush editor, this may strip out some or all of the formatting.

Thanks, I'm going to try it. I think I always used to copy and paste directly from the Word document, and that used to work well enough. I'd add italics within Lush itself. Often I had to adjust paragraph spacing too (there was often too much spacing), which took a bit of time, but I got used to it. 
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In all of this, I'd like an answer to this question (I also posted it on another thread.): Is it true that  a new story has to be submitted from the drafts mode? Okay. but that's not the way it used to be. The former final mode - which showed what the story actually looked like - I can't even remember what that was called. I understand the copy and paste and the saving a copy in Word procedures.

No. You can save as a draft or post as a new submission.
Is that also true of stories that were in drafts mode before Sept. 6? There were quite a few few people who couldn't submit them and had to start them as new submissions again. That was discussed here quite a bit, but that was about three days ago now I think.  Anyway, thank you for your help.

In all of this, I'd like an answer to this question (I also posted it on another thread.): Is it true that  a new story has to be submitted from the drafts mode? Okay. but that's not the way it used to be. The former final mode - which showed what the story actually looked like - I can't even remember what that was called. I understand the copy and paste and the saving a copy in Word procedures.

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Sorry to jump in again but I thought I saw somewhere that the submitting of stories from draft is no longer a problem but I cannot find that post. As mentioned, on advice, I copied and pasted my story from draft to a 'new' story and submitted it that way and it worked. I have now commenced typing another stary and as I usually type a few paragraphs at a time, I have saved what I have done so far to draft. Am I likely to have problems submitting whenever I finish the story (possibly today) please? If I do, I suppose the copy and paste to a 'new' story will be the way to go. One other point, the story that I did post via copy and paste is showing as both unpublished and published but I fear that deleting it from unpublished would also delete the published version-would it?

Yes, I believe publishing from draft of now fixed - if it doesn't, the copy-paste workaround is fine, but let us know so we know it still needs work.

Your unpublished copy of your published one should be fine to delete - if you want to be absolutely sure, copy it into Word or something before you delete the unpublished one - if it somehow deletes the published one (I think there is zero chance of that happening) submit it again with a note that it was all my fault 😉


Thank you. I will continue with the latest story and hopefully submit it successfully from draft when completed and edited. I will pluck up courage to delete the unpublished version of the previous one that eventually got published. I will copy it first, just in case. Thanks again. Paul



Sorry-one other point. I put tags on the 'new' page of the story that I am working on but they do NOT appear on the draft. I know that when I copied and pasted the previous one you said there were no tags so do I type them (again) on the draft please?




I still can't get an answer on this: a new story has to be submitted from the drafts mode? Okay. but that's not the way it used to be. The former final mode - which showed what the story actually looked like - I can't even remember what that was called. I understand the copy and paste and the saving a copy in Word procedures.
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This is fine for a new story but not for amendment of a story you have already had published because that would mean losing all the original votes and comments. So, for example, adding an existing story to a series means that you have to submit it as if it is a new story. This is just not satisfactory.

I don't think I've ever done that, I mean taking a stand-alone story and later deciding to add it to a series. But yes, I guess it wasn't that hard to do. You would have to edit the story by adding the series name and linking it to the chapter just before it.

Another problem is that the series names didn't make it through the change-over; they have to be "re-created." I have that problem with the fourth chapter of series that was in drafts mode during the transition. Now I have to add a disclaimer saying, "This is actually is the fourth chapter; the other three are such-and-such." Those three are still there, and oddly enough that do have the series name, links and all. It's almost like a counter-intuitive glitch.

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I have just submitted the story again (or maybe I haven't). It might be in the queue twice, once or not at all but it would be nice to know please.

I checked for you, Paul, but I'm afraid it's still not there. If you go to it on your list of stories and copy the link you can PM it to me, I can take a look from the mod end if you like.


Thank you for this but with me not being very computer literate exactly WHAT (and maybe how) do you want me to copy please? Paul


Copy and paste the text of your story into a new submission and submit. Don't save it as a draft first.


Okay, submit it without saving it as a draft first? But then we can't see what it will really look like. I hope that is fixed eventually, because I've never heard of a site that does that. Well, Stories on Line is a bit like that, because you have to upload the file and never see the final product until it's been published. They do have a "format previewer" that gives you some idea as a sort of test run. But their software is ancient, at least fifteen years out-of-date.


In my case, I had saved then edited then saved and THOUGHT that I had submitted but it eventually became clear that I had not. On advice in this thread, I copied and pasted my already edited and saved story to a 'new' story and submitted from there.

I understand that part. But even if I edited the story first, and put in a 'new story' and submitted in from there, I can't save that new one as a draft first at all? I have to submit it from it directly from the draft? I hope that question is clear.
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I have just submitted the story again (or maybe I haven't). It might be in the queue twice, once or not at all but it would be nice to know please.

I checked for you, Paul, but I'm afraid it's still not there. If you go to it on your list of stories and copy the link you can PM it to me, I can take a look from the mod end if you like.


Thank you for this but with me not being very computer literate exactly WHAT (and maybe how) do you want me to copy please? Paul


Copy and paste the text of your story into a new submission and submit. Don't save it as a draft first.


Okay, submit it without saving it as a draft first? But then we can't see what it will really look like. I hope that is fixed eventually, because I've never heard of a site that does that. Well, Stories on Line is a bit like that, because you have to upload the file and never see the final product until it's been published. They do have a "format previewer" that gives you some idea as a sort of test run. But their software is ancient, at least fifteen years out-of-date.

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I can't seem to publish a story that was migrated from the old site. It was waiting to be published and I've found the story, clicked on it, edited it so that I can see the publish button, I've also added a picture (from my file system - thanks). Submitted it. A popup appears telling me the story has been submitted and the blue banner at the top says that the story is currently in draft.

When I tab onto the Published stories - it is not there. When I go back to unpublished - it is there.

I was expecting a blue banner saying it was being verified in the published stories area - but nothing there. I tried six or seven times. 

Is this a bug? or is there a way to do this properly. 


Hiya, there is currently an issue with stories saved as draft. They're not being submitted unfortunately. If you can copy and paste the story into s new submission, and submit immediately rather than save as a draft, that should work smile

I'm not doing that - there's enough italics in that story and the current editor is stripping out all formatting. I'm not going through it all putting it all back in. 

Thanks for letting me know anyway.


Could fixing that editor be top priority please. It seems it's essential.

If that's what it takes, then I'll do it - I mean I won't try to submit a story (there is one) that is a holdover draft from the previous version. I assume we can still edit the "new" submission and keep it as a draft? Also, I guess the holdover version should be be deleted as soon as it is copied. Or maybe I should go back to my Word document and start from scratch. 


I'm still going to hold off for a few days until more shakes out and the backlog is reduced. Oh, you did say that we should hit the submit button immediately. Definitely want to wait, then.

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I just read that the site is getting 250 requests per day, mostly about log-in problems. Sorry, I sent a couple myself. The problem I had was that I didn't realize that I had to fill out the "seeking" profile first. It just wasn't clear to me that it was necessary, because I already had a profile. Another member clued me in (on another site's forum) and then it worked. I did have to reset my original avatar image, however.


That's fine for those interested in a dating site. But Lush was primarily a writers site and many if not most people here may not want to fill out "seeking" information. I know I don't.

Well, I'd probably agree with you on that. Initially I was just happy to finally log-in. Although what I found here gives me pause.

Somebody advised me to make the "seeking information" a bunch of nonsense so that I wouldn't get any matches. In any case, is anybody getting any matches? I suspect that getting rid of it is not high on Lush's priories right now. 




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Click your ava, and then the "My Comments" link.  It's essentially the same thing.

Not even close
Hmm...  What's missing?  I'm seeing my comments and likes pop up.  The only other thing I can remember from the timeline was profile posts.
Friend's comments or images they've posted to our profile page used to appear in our timelines.


Quoted direct replies to any comments we might have made in any forum thread - would also appear in our timelines.


It was a nice feature over at the former digs.

It used to show who had the story in their reading queue. It also told you when a vote was made, and what the total number of votes was. (Well, that is with the story itself too.) I'm not even seeing the "likes" any longer. Also, as someone else mentioned, the word count for a story is nowhere to be found, only the estimated reading time. None of those are deal-breakers, but ideally they should be restored.