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Or maybe try to do something about it.

tried that route. people in America value their freedom to own a gun more than they do the lives of children so, eventually i just gave up,

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I replied to your inquiry here

Having posted my approval that Texas had recently taken action with HB 3 to protect the children in its public schools, you asked me if what had happened in the past was what I thought of as serious. What prompted you to ask such a question? You know that approval of a future event is not necessarily approval of a past event.

I danced around nothing, for your question, “So, Uvalde isn’t actually in Texas?” related to nothing I had posted. That is why I replied, “Did I suggest that? If not, why did you ask?”

If you wish not to converse with me, stop.

i most graciously accept your heartfelt apology. thank you.

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Is new racism a just response to old racism? I don't think so, but I'm sure there are people who do think so. Revenge isn't justice.

not sure how you see this as revenge.

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Which had nothing to do with Uvalde - in or not in Texas.

i asked a pretty simple question. you declined to answer it. instead you just danced around it and wasted everyone's time like always. this is, btw, why i usually refuse to converse with you - it's not because i disagree with you. it's because you have nothing to add or say to the conversation.

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Did I suggest that? If not, why did you ask?

well, when i mentioned it, you told me i was mistaken. if you're going to make a statement like that, it would be polite to explain what i was mistaken about rather than just put out a blanket statement. so... what was i mistaken about?

for the record, from 1970 to today, there have been 192 school shootings Texas, based on data tracked by the Naval Postgraduate School’s Center for Homeland Defense and Security. so the question i have is, why did it take them 53 years to get serious about it?

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You are mistaken.

So, Uvalde isn't actually in Texas?

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It is good to see that some people, in this instance, the State of Texas, are taking a serious issue seriously.

Isn't Texas the state where the cops hung out outside the door for like 90 minutes while the shooter was busy massacring kids? that's your definition of taking it seriously?

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Then stop trying.

The answer's none

Columbine was multiple shooters. that was 24 years ago, tho. Also one in '83 up here in Seattle that involved multiple shooters. other than that it's usually single shooters. that all said, you're fixating on semantics with a ESL poster.

i've had fun posting pride vids here over the last few weeks. sunday night a close friend of ours opted out of this world and i just don't have the energy or motivation right now so i'm just going to take a break from doing so for a bit. thanks for letting me indulge. love you all. - Rach

Bonus vids, since today is Juneteenth. if you'd known me when i as in my teens and living in oakland, this is what i would have been listening to.

pride month is well underway, and so is the effort by bigots make sure we know we are hated. yay. i like our hood. one of the neighbors actually brought over rainbow colored cookies. we don't go crazy. we have a couple of small rainbow flags in some of the flower pots on our front porch. one of our other neighbors, however, has been less than thrilled since the they realized we are a lesbian couple. nice to be hated for no other reason than you're in love. rise above and all that, yeah, but some days it's harder than others. this is one of those days.

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Cool.

Sorry about the undefined acronym (Brave New World).

Yep. I'm thinking about the armorer working the "Rust" production!

Or Brandon Lee on the set ofThe Crow - that comes to mind mainly because he's actually buried up here.

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Yes. Much better. Thanks.

I hope you won't be disappointed if I agree with you on all 8.

Qualifications

2) If letting somebody know you've got a gun, know how to use it, and are willing to use it, doing that isn't irresponsible since it might short-circuit a more serious confrontation.

4) Many gun owners like to show off their prized possession, in particular to other gun owners. Since in our BNW here, they'll all be trained on how to drive a gun, letting one handle it when it's unloaded should be acceptable.

I may dream up other differences between us about guns, and you might too, but this is a start.

2) if it's treated as a case of self-defense, than i would have no issue with that - if you really thought you were in danger of being harmed, sure.

4) no idea what a BNW but in a situation such as that, as long as you're SURE it's unloaded (plenty of cases where people thought the weapon was unloaded and it wasn't and someone ended up getting shot) then i have no real issue with it. i assume this is done in a controlled atmosphere.

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If you try to put words into my mouth again, you'll forfeit future discussions with me. Your call.

People - you, me, everybody can behave responsibly and irresponsibly. What you posted was, "how i think the gun laws in the US should read." There's a world of difference between personal responsibility and laws that control society.

I'll agree with you that it's a bad idea to lend somebody else a weapon because they could shoot/kill somebody with it. I don't think the "never allow anyone else to use it" idea will work because of the 2nd amendment. If, by letting somebody know you've got a gun and are willing to use it, like the Armed Security In Schools idea is pushing, and somebody thinks twice before trying to do [whatever], then it's not out of the question.

ok, you would like it distilled then.

here you go.

1) a responsible gun owner should keep their gun locked up and inaccessible to anyone else at all times when not in use.

2) ARG (short hand for responsible gun owner) should only use their gun for it's intended uses: self defense. hunting. target/sport shooting

3) ARG should take safety classes before using their gun. they should refresh those classes every so often - 4 years is my call

4) ARG should never treat their weapon as a toy or something to show off

5) ARG should never purchase a gun that is meant to be used for something other than the above list (see #2). that includes assault style or modified weapons

6) ARG should only purchase a gun from a reputable and licensed source

7) ARG should never handle their weapon while under the influence (drink or drugs)

8) ARG should not use their weapon as an emotional reaction (anger) nor threaten any one except someone meaning to do them harm.

better?

so, i've asked you the same question twice now... i'd appreciate it if you answered in kind. thanks.