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Quote by DLizze
Sprite - Though the practice is not something I am interested in, the statements and facts about the offspring of incestuous relationships notwithstanding, why is there anything inherrently wrong if two consenting adults chose to have (or for that matter live in) an incetuous relationship? I can't recall learning anywhere that being in a heterosexual relationship guarantees there will be offsring.


i think that inbreeding is the original objection - also, incestual relationships usually stem from abuse, i think that's a fact, tho i'm too lazy to look it up right now.
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Quote by FelineFantasy


I was born in a Christian household, I stand by most of it's teachings except for the fact that they believe being gay is wrong. LOL my apologies, I meant to say pro-gay, I was lingering on a forum topic that I'd written in previous to this one. Wow, that is foolish. I am PRO-GAY people. Code red! Code red! Now I can understand your confusion, oh what typos can do to you.. This is worse than the auto correct snapshots I see all over the web. Back to the point- yes I am bi-curious and have had sex with a female before and will continue to do so. Sorry for the confusion..


lol - that makes a LOT more sense, thank you for that - after checking out some of your other posts, i was like 'huh'? does she not realize that girl on girl is gay too? smile i did that too, by the way - someone just caught me typing 'straight gay' instead of 'straight guy' smile
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@ Daisy. I like your hair. it's cute. I like it when it's slicked back - it gives you a stylish movie star look and it accents your beautiful eyes. And i like it when it's falling loose, framing your lovely face, your bright smile, your cute little nose. Oh, and when it's messy, it makes me think of how you'd look after a tumble under the sheets, heat rising from your naked flesh, the sheen of persperation on your throat, the blush of your cheeks, joy and shame and arousal making you glow. yep, i love your hair, however you choose to wear it. *hugs* smile
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Quote by MulliMoonlight


Again, I mean no offense or implications, but I have yet to hear a logical argument that supports homosexuality but condemns .


Here, I'l help you out here. It's called inbreeding and it's a result of , but not homosexuality. Here you go. smile

that results in offspring is a form of close inbreeding (reproduction between two individuals with a common ancestor). Inbreeding leads to a higher probability of congenital birth defects because it increases that proportion of zygotes that are homozygous, in particular for deleterious recessive alleles that produce such disorders.

Because most such alleles are rare in populations, it is unlikely that two unrelated marriage partners will both be heterozygous carriers. However, because close relatives share a large fraction of their alleles, the probability that any such rare deleterious allele present in the common ancestor will be inherited from both related parents is increased dramatically with respect to non-inbred couples. Contrary to common belief, inbreeding does not in itself alter allele frequencies, but rather increases the relative proportion of homozygotes to heterozygotes. However, because the increased proportion of deleterious homozygotes exposes the allele to natural selection, in the long run its frequency decreases more rapidly in inbred population. In the short term, incestuous reproduction is expected to produce increases in spontaneous abortions of zygotes, perinatal deaths, and postnatal offspring with birth defects.

There may also be other deleterious effects besides those caused by recessive diseases. Thus, similar immune systems may be more vulnerable to infectious diseases (see Major histocompatibility complex and sexual selection).

A 1994 study found a mean excess mortality with inbreeding among first cousins of 4.4%.

Children of parent-child or sibling-sibling unions are at increased risk compared to cousin-cousin unions. Studies suggest that 20-36% of these children will die or have major disability due to the inbreeding. A study of 29 offspring resulting from brother-sister or father-daughter found that 20 had congenital abnormalities, including four directly attributable to autosomal recessive alleles.
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Quote by MulliMoonlight
sprite: "i'm not sure how you reconcile those positions. quite honestly, i'm curious as to how you can say that you are anti-gay and yet not homophobic or close minded and then, claim to be Christian as well. "


Being anti-gay and being homophobic are two different things. You can disagree with the lifestyle while still loving and accepting the person. Christian doctrine says to love all people, it doesn't mean Christians have to love their choices.

The Bible states a clear position against homosexuality, to follow Christian teachings you must be anti-gay.


#1: it's not a lifestyle any more than being straight is a lifestyle. it's who they are. people don't just decide to be gay and live a gay lifestyle. it's who they are. it's not a choice, just like being black is not a choice. Trust me, it would be WAY easier to be straight. why anyone would choose to be gay, knowing that they are going to be treated with prejudice and bullied and not given equal rights, is beyond me.

#2: You can disagree with the lifestyle while still loving and accepting the person. thing is, you are NOT accepting the person - if you want to truly love and accept someone who is gay, than you have to accept and respect that they are gay, just like i respect and accept that some people are straight and/or Christian - you will never see me saying:

"I disagree with the Christian lifestyle but accept and love Christians despite their lifestyle."

Sorry, when someone tells me that they love and accept me DESPITE my gayness, i don't feel very loved or accepted. The Jesus i believe in would have welcomed and accepted gays, lesbians, transgenders, cross dressers, and pretty much everyone with a good heart. AND i could make the argument that the bible has a clear position on a lot of things - it's a book, translated by men over 2000 years ago based on the culture of the time. Some of the teachings are pretty archaic and barbaric if you take a careful look at them and shouldn't be taken too literally. smile
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Quote by FelineFantasy
I'm Christian and anti-gay and not homophobic in the least. Does that make me a hypocrite? No. Our teachings tell us to accept people no matter what form they come in, animal, human, heck even alien!, yellow, pink, brown, gay or straight. The problem is how close minded and prude people are.


i'm not sure how you reconcile those positions. quite honestly, i'm curious as to how you can say that you are anti-gay and yet not homophobic or close minded and then, claim to be Christian as well. That's akin to saying "I am anti-black but i'm not a racist"

You state that your teachings say to accept people no matter what form, so by your own definition, you are going against your teachings when you say that you are anti-gay, right? - and no, i am not trying to bash you, merely to try to understand your stance.

btw, you state, in your bio, that you are bi-curious - now i am really confused. smile
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Quote by clum


The name of that organisation offends me. "Gays"!? As in, "Hi, I'm Harry and I'm a gay."? Ugh.

Also, does this thread constitute discussing ? If so, Nicola might be due a suspension.


PFLAG is actually a really great orginization and very supportive smile
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I thought it stood for Beautiful Bi-sexual Men. Damn. wrong again!
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i have a Dell. i've always had good luck with them, as has Kate. I don't use it for games or anything really fancy. it's how i have my internet connection, where i store my files, where i write (microsoft word), and where i keep my few art programs, like photoshop and paint. If i did a lot more with it, i might like to own a Mac, but really, i'm happy with mine, and my last Dell lasted... well, i still have it and it works, even tho it's out of date, and i think it's about 6 years old now? that's pretty good for a computer, right?
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Quote by PersonalAssistant
my dream job would be to have my own knit shop (yarn/wool). So, Canadian, eh? lol

second dream job would be to be a personal cook


not a personal assistant? ;)

i want to be a travel writer. it just came to me, i didn't know, but suddenly, that's what i want to be. wow.
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Quote by crazydiamond
I did not think I had any side effects from the pill till I came off it.
I would never use hormonal contraceptive again, 18 years on the pill, no real issues, 1 month off it and i was as horny as a 15 year old boy! hahaha
Condoms.... hate the things, they cause me unpleasant reactions at best.
I now have a copper iud, sorted for 5 years, I don't even remember its there, best thing I ever did.


you say that like it's a bad thing! *giggle*

i don't like condoms - i don't TRUST condoms. they come off, they tear, they don't end up getting put on, they take you out of the moment - yes, i will use them if i have to (being in a relationship with another girl, it's rare i need to worry about contraceptives, so i am not on the pill) but i'm not a big fan.
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Quote by sunshinehigh
I don't get drunk...I get AWESOME


best answer ever smile
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Quote by winky


well im Jesus so i win silly


damn you! i was THIS close to coming in first again! *shakes fist*
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Quote by chefkathleen
Liz says it better than I do.



actually, i totally gay park my car and have gay lunch. it's way more stylish then straight parking or straight lunch. envy me. smile
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for the record, my same sex partner/gf/wife and i enjoy penetration sex and we're not fantasizing about guys while indulging - it simply feels good to have another woman making you, well... feel good. not matter what you're doing, she's still a woman.
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Quote by Shylass
The one thing all my exes had in common is that they were all imaginary.


we should compare notes - i think we might have dated some of the same guys - were any of yours blue?
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you should use your dog pic for your avatar, Alan - it's MUCH cuter then the current one biggrin
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hmm... where to start. wooody is VERY handsome - check out his image gallery, and i LOVE his avatar! very mysterious and cool and he took the time not only to write a bio, but it's a very thoughtful one and honest one. smile
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i am really a cat who learned how to type really well. smile
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Quote by CuriousKitty
Tried my best to do it silently during class today thanks to a certain cruel someone but,,,, it did not work out so I fled the room and exploded


*giggles* you are a bad bad girl
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Quote by Shylass


Are you criticising me for not being able to write in Welsh (mostly because I'm not Welsh and was never taught the language)? They have Google Translate for that, you know!

harrylime, that was a mean comment! If they were more competant, they could at least have written "Please"!


actually, i'm just flirting with you cause i think you're adorable!
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Quote by harrylime
The most memorable negative comment I have received to date was the concisely worded "stop writing". lol HL


sorry about that. drinking and story modding don't mix, obviously. Nicola had a stern talking to me that evening, if it helps!
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Quote by Shylass


Dammit! Why aren't you writing a story? Your punishment for making me go, "Do I? Crap, I need to go back to basics... Oh. " is to critique that poem for me because my mate isn't online yet. PM on the way.

Humph.


i just wanted to see if i could goad you into writing something in Welsh. as for not writing, even writing tires me out right now. i'm still working on sitting upright. when i DO get going again, hopefully, i have lots of stuff bottled up inside to spew onto the page. smile
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it's been so long that i have forgotten how. sad, but true.
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FRED SPOTTING! I can SEE him! he's here! ok, now i'm getting a little paranoid too! *shivers and hides*
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That reminds me, Daisy - i meant to make the comment that you use too many vowels in your stories. just an observation. smile
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Quote by nicola
Has anyone seen hide or hair of MNP since his birthday? I'm thinking of phoning round the hospitals (again)...


he crashed out on our porch - i drug him inside and let him have the guest room. oh, and while he's sleeping it off, we got him tattooed. biggrin
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