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If someone gives you a low score, you could also dress them up in a gingerbread outfit and tell Fred they're a giant ginga...and watch him bit their head off...that might work...


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If someone gives you a low score, you could also dress them up in a gingerbread outfit and tell Fred they're a giant ginga...and watch him bit their head off...that might work...




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Lol...now I know what to wear...when we going out anyway?


After I have nommed you all up...

What was this thread about? I seem to have forgotten...
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Ah, there is new measure in place now, though. As I said, changing the system is not an option (Mamma Nicola said so once, I remember), but you can choose to insist on a comment with your score.

I'd say the balance of your other scorers ought to show you the true measure of your work, lass!


Yes, I am aware that the system will not be changed. I was just mentioning that that was how it was once, and I liked it!

Thank you, Mazza, for your comment .... smile
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Do the scores on the piece even matter to you, or is it just the fact that at least one person liked it?


It would be hard for me to say that the scores don't matter if I bother to check them. I wouldn't check them if they didn't at least have some curiosity value. But I got my first 2 vote on a story today and I was thrilled. I wouldn't have been thrilled if the story wasn't in the novels category, but since it is and since it deals with some emotional nastiness, I got to think that maybe I really upset someone who needed upsetting.
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The voting never really bothered me much... I was rather thrilled to receive 3's let alone 5's.
It wasn't something I had any issue with and the fact someone took the time to vote and/or comment on my story was more than enough for me. (Yes, I have, at times, had issues with self-worth)
I did however, receive a rather blunt comment on one of my stories. I ruminated and mulled over that comment for awhile. At first I was rather peeved about it, but then I took what they said at face value and 6 months later mailed him a thank you note. What they said was valid and made total sense. I have now thought of his comment on every single one of my stories since then and hopefully it's made me a better writer.
I've been fortunate enough to not receive any really nasty comments on my stories, but I do expect it... at some point.
when i first joined, scores meant a lot to me. i felt like they were a validation of not only my story, but of me, and i'd get really upset if i was scored somewhere on the spectrum that i felt i didn't deserve. now... well, i'm happy with 4's and 5's and if i have a story that i believe average (my LoveBug stories are fun, but light weight) than i am content with a 3. that said, i consider that most of the stories here merit a 3, and if a story is getting universally good scores, and those are honest scores, then a 1 or a 2 is really just someone being an ass. that's fine. that's their issue, not a reflection of me, and i can let it go anymore. now, if someone rates someone else's story that i think is brilliant with a low score, i will get upset, and have taken my case to Nic once or twice over it. this is why she is never on when i am, she avoids me - i think it's also my stinky cheese breath.

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People are sensitive souls - especially internet people (they're not real, you see - that annoys them) Giving them a number that isn't a five destroys one of the magic fairies that holds them together.

The scoring system is probably the most pointlessly contentious issue here - largely because it's the basis of Top Authors and the Story Picks of the month. Both are calculated not chosen and, as such, susceptible to underhand practices. What I would say in its defence is that it helps new authors on here rather than the established ones.

A story can become a story pick of the month with just a handful of fives - if you're a new author with only a few lush friends and your av doesn't have a pair of big boobs it's unlikely you're going to get many views, let alone votes at all. If those votes are all fives, you have a good chance of reaching a new audience when the story picks of the month come out (until you get voted down, of course)

Contrast and compare to the established authors who market their stories through their extensive networks of lush friends and with witty posts on the forums (a matter I touched on in one of my story's - there's a link at the foot of this post* ). Lots of views lots of votes the occasional 4 or even 3 will obviously creep in.

Also remember, no one gets taught how to vote here - mostly it seems if you can finish it and you like it, give it a 5. Some people may not see it that way, some might save their 5s for something that truly deserves it. Of course you will get arseholes deliberately voting down, but as online communities go Lush is remarkably fluffy when it comes to flaming. I maintain that authors should look at the number of people who favourite a story to get a good indication of its success.

I very, very rarely vote. Usually only for new authors who need a bit of encouragement.

One final point: My most read story is an Editor's [sic] Choice, has 15,399 views and 52 votes at an average of 4.71 - these figures suggest 99.7% of readers weren't even moved enough by it to vote - does that make them all 3s or worse?

* #irony
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I think, after reading what many have written here, we don't mind if our story received a 3, 2 or 1 .... but it would be very nice if that score was quantified (expressing why) in order to gain insight on what a reader perceived.

For many of us here, our writing has evolved from our first story/poem to where we are now. Feedback helps us writers grow.

Looking at Daisy's original question, I admit to becoming upset for a low score, much more so if without a comment. I did once accidentally score a story lower than intended and so tried to make up for it on another story they had written (both were only worth a 4).
Now, when I receive a singular low score I excuse as a mistake.

I did have one story that was getting somewhat lower scores and I even posted a comment that I was going to do an edit and repost it. The next day the scores were higher... but I still have not got around to doing that edit (go figure). Since then it has been 'Favorited' by others.
I have read stories from every person posting here before me and simply reject that any intelligent person without a vindictive grudge could vote less than a 5 for them; unless they just screwed up voting.

Yet the truth of the matter is, I don't have a lot of confidence in the scoring system as I frequently see truly excellent stories with a score only a half point above the mediocre stories. So I write for the comments, and now require a comment for any vote. So now... I read the comments and ignore the vote.
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People are sensitive souls - especially internet people (they're not real, you see - that annoys them) Giving them a number that isn't a five destroys one of the magic fairies that holds them together.

The scoring system is probably the most pointlessly contentious issue here - largely because it's the basis of Top Authors and the Story Picks of the month. Both are calculated not chosen and, as such, susceptible to underhand practices. What I would say in its defence is that it helps new authors on here rather than the established ones.

A story can become a story pick of the month with just a handful of fives - if you're a new author with only a few lush friends and your av doesn't have a pair of big boobs it's unlikely you're going to get many views, let alone votes at all. If those votes are all fives, you have a good chance of reaching a new audience when the story picks of the month come out (until you get voted down, of course)

Contrast and compare to the established authors who market their stories through their extensive networks of lush friends and with witty posts on the forums (a matter I touched on in one of my story's - there's a link at the foot of this post* ). Lots of views lots of votes the occasional 4 or even 3 will obviously creep in.

Also remember, no one gets taught how to vote here - mostly it seems if you can finish it and you like it, give it a 5. Some people may not see it that way, some might save their 5s for something that truly deserves it. Of course you will get arseholes deliberately voting down, but as online communities go Lush is remarkably fluffy when it comes to flaming. I maintain that authors should look at the number of people who favourite a story to get a good indication of its success.

I very, very rarely vote. Usually only for new authors who need a bit of encouragement.

One final point: My most read story is an Editor's [sic] Choice, has 15,399 views and 52 votes at an average of 4.71 - these figures suggest 99.7% of readers weren't even moved enough by it to vote - does that make them all 3s or worse?

* #irony


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Ha! I totally read his story after his post!!

(in fairness, it was very appropriate! I gave it a 5 ha ha)
I'm afraid to say it goes with the territory and unfortunately some people take advantage of that here. That said - like everything it is all about a matter of taste and different people are looking for different stories - not all of them will be to their taste. To leave any bad score without a reason is very bad form and shows a complete lack of respect. I for one know that I can't spell or punctuate - completely dyslexic and take that criticism for what it is. Eventually I asked a good friend who is a much better wordsmith than me to proof read my efforts and my scores went up.

There is however definitely some favoritism here - with some writers getting good reviews regardless of the content - that is even worse - a cliquey little club - no thank you!
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There is however definitely some favoritism here - with some writers getting good reviews regardless of the content - that is even worse - a cliquey little club - no thank you!


I think, like any community, there are groups of friends within it, and it is natural that they want to score and mark each others' work. Yes, there is the mutual backslapping that goes on, as well as the marking down maliciously, but I have noticed that people who are kind to me prefer to tell me in private what they didn't like, or if they didn't think I did a very good job of things. Perhaps the very nature of friendship is that each one within it is more able to use their criticism both tactfully and privately bcause they care. Some want that out in the open, others don't. What some see as a "negative" comment, others see as constructive, and shouldn't be jumped on for kindly offering their view. But the truth is, it happens, and so people prefer to keep the more "negative" comments private. I don't like all my friends' stuff, and I refuse to read some of it too, as they know. And I have a label on my forehead that says "persnicketty", as anybody who ever sent me something to proofread knows all too well.

I would suggest people stick to what they are comfortable with, and ignore the people they don't like, because behaviours are beyond anybody's control but their own, particularly when it comes to online community and the feedback of writing.
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I'm afraid to say it goes with the territory and unfortunately some people take advantage of that here. That said - like everything it is all about a matter of taste and different people are looking for different stories - not all of them will be to their taste. To leave any bad score without a reason is very bad form and shows a complete lack of respect. I for one know that I can't spell or punctuate - completely dyslexic and take that criticism for what it is. Eventually I asked a good friend who is a much better wordsmith than me to proof read my efforts and my scores went up.

There is however definitely some favoritism here - with some writers getting good reviews regardless of the content - that is even worse - a cliquey little club - no thank you!


Ha, as I recall, that is why we became friends!!
speaking of "negative" numbers ..... how do other writers feel about those that only leave a comment (usually those comments are praising) without scoring?

I am always surprised that someone takes the time to write something but doesn't hit a scoring number.

(yeah I know it's never going to be perfect ..... was just wondering how other writers felt)
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speaking of "negative" numbers ..... how do other writers feel about those that only leave a comment (usually those comments are praising) without scoring?

I am always surprised that someone takes the time to write something but doesn't hit a scoring number.

(yeah I know it's never going to be perfect ..... was just wondering how other writers felt)


i honestly value comments over votes. it's easy to vote. if someone took the time to leave a comment, that means they thought my story was worth their time. also, some people just leave awesome comments that totally make my day smile

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speaking of "negative" numbers ..... how do other writers feel about those that only leave a comment (usually those comments are praising) without scoring?

I am always surprised that someone takes the time to write something but doesn't hit a scoring number.

(yeah I know it's never going to be perfect ..... was just wondering how other writers felt)


Is that a fact? I knew some people hide the activity when it showed they scored. Maybe some think the scoring system is pointless (geddit? ) Wow, I never thought of that. It naturally follows to me that I read, score, comment, usually. If I had to choose, I would rather get the comments, because I can learn from them (hopefully), but I do like to look at the visual chart of how people scored, as that gives me a good idea of the general consensus (the number.number thing just confuses me).
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i honestly value comments over votes. it's easy to vote. if someone took the time to leave a comment, that means they thought my story was worth their time.


They probably don't vote on your stories because there is no 0 score...the lowest the scores go is a 1...

Remind me to talk to Gav about that...

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The longer you write and post online, the less personally you start to taking scoring systems. They vary *widely* depending on where you post and Lush readers are typically very generous with their scores/comments as it is.

I'm not going to lie, it still deflates me a little, especially if it's a story that I spent a lot of time on and that I know is well-polished and a quality tale. 3's never come with comments, so it's hard to know what the person dislikes - it could be anything from "I don't like the length of your story" to "the sex was too raunchy" to "you're just an average writer." Then again, it could also just be that the person dislikes 'me' from my forum posts/profile or the type of person they think I am. Without an actual comment, it's all a guessing game. And since those guesses vary a lot, I try to chill out and go with the flow. And if I'm in a particularly sensitive mood, sometimes a shot of tequila helps too.

I'm grateful for any comments or votes, whether they accompany each other or whether someone's style is just to give comments only (or scores only). If the person read my story and felt moved to do either, it's all good as far as I'm concerned.
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speaking of "negative" numbers ..... how do other writers feel about those that only leave a comment (usually those comments are praising) without scoring?

I am always surprised that someone takes the time to write something but doesn't hit a scoring number.

(yeah I know it's never going to be perfect ..... was just wondering how other writers felt)


I have absolutely no problem with that. As I said above, scores - while nice - are pretty meaningless. I prefer to give and receive genuine, helpful comments. I try to say something a little more than "wow that was so hot! 5+"
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Personally I couldn't care less about votes and I hardly look at them. However I do care about comments and I appreciate constructive criticism most of all. I wish more of us here would take the time via PM to offer constructive crit.

I must admit there have been a few times when I've read stories and poems that I was unable to finish due to their poor quality or due to the lack of editing on the part of the author. I find it really hard to read poems that totally lack punctuation, for instance, or that show little attention to form and flow. Just as in music - there is music and there is noise.

When I was a moderator/story verifier, I was constantly correcting people's spelling, grammar and punctuation. I even sent pieces back because of the total lack of quality. These days I will not give a score or leave a comment on anything that I don't think deserves a four or a five. I don't want to hurt people's feelings but I wish authors would take the time to edit their work and show some respect for the basic rules of the English language.


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One thing I do now is set my stories to only allow members to vote. I feel that this cuts down the casual vote by people who are less serious about the craft.

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Someone gave me a 2. LOL

I merely consider a low score an indicater of the reader's intelligence. Hey, so I didn't write a wanker. Deal with it, suckah!
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Someone gave me a 2. LOL

I merely consider a low score an indicater of the reader's intelligence.


Oh, that is great!
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Someone gave me a 2. LOL

I merely consider a low score an indicater of the reader's intelligence. Hey, so I didn't write a wanker. Deal with it, suckah!


I totally beat you! I just got a 1!
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I received a 1 on my latest poem and even a kind commenter asked "Who gave a 1..!" As others have said, the 1 givers who never comment or send constructive criticism are likely trolls with envy, jealousy, or some other personal "issue" they deal with by lowering the average score of higher numbers. We have to remember that it takes a conscious effort to click that voting number. If you don't "get it" or it's not to your particular "taste", most people would not leave a score at all, just shrug and go read something else. So without constructive criticism or some comment to accompany it, to give a story a 1 is an active malicious act and a personal one. It says a lot about the character of the voter, not so much about the author or the individual story or poem. Writing is always a personal thing (yeah, I know, Capt. Obvious comment smile), so "taking it personally" is natural. You are expressing your thoughts and feelings at a deep level. So, again, without leaving a constructive critique comment or a "reason" for the dislike doesn't help the writer improve if you feel they can do better somehow. There will always be malicious people -- the kind who get a thrill out of knocking the ice cream scoop off a kid's cone and laughing -- such people are immaterial to your success in writing, but unless you can buy another ice cream scoop, they have done their maximal damage. Be of good cheer though, their karmic backlash is stalking them. And we all know karma is a bitch.