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Quote by ChuckEPoo


I'm so ignorant to the styles of poetry. I don't know what EMO poems are or the other mentioned here. Is this a three line poem you're refering to?
Your

Your eyes
Are like deep blue pools
Captivating and consuming
Drawing me in to you

Your smile
Glimmering with joy
Brillant as the sun.
Brightening my day

Your lips
So softly touch to mine
Stirring a fire from within
A kiss that is sealed in love

Your voice
Is like a concerto to my soul
A melody sung just for me
That streams into my heart

Your walk
Is gracefully swaying
And sensually alluring
Igniting my passion within

Your hair
Flowing like raven silk
Cascading your shoulders
Framing your supple breasts

Your hands
Are perfect in their form
Exquisitely elegant, caressing
And so sensual in their touch

Your arms
Pulling me tightly into you
The warmth of your embrace
Assures to me this is my place

Your soul
Tenderly reaches out to mine
Our story was written from above
And was consecrated in our love

I love you


Most beautiful Chuck...hope you submit that.xxx
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A Haiku is a traditional Japanese poem style that is only 17 syllables long. It is written in three lines. The first line is 5 syllables, the second line is 7 syllables and the third line is 5 syllables. So it is a very short poem of only 3 lines. It has become popular in English.

Being that it is so short, it is not allowed as a submitted poem here on Lush. We have a thread here in the Poet's Corner where members can post their Haikus.

https://www.lushstories.com/forum/yaf_postst7391_HaikuLushly-speaking.aspx

You can see samples of Haiku poems at the above link. You are invited to post Haikus there if you wish.


Does this count for the poetry contest too?

Not trying to throw that person anywhere. I did see one tiny haiku as a submission.
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Thank you for making an effort to add to the conversation.

For the record, btw, Trink, I like your writing. Especially the poems.


I was just kidding. I've actually never read any of them. It's obvious that hardly anyone reads them. It doesn't take a detective to realize this. Go and click on a poem by these people that clog up the front page with a shitty poem after poem everyday and look at the ridiculously low view count compared to stories. Then look at the comments. 99% of the comments are "nice writing -insert authors name-" It's just friends fluffing each other. Putting a child's macaroni artwork on the refrigerator to make them feel important comes to mind. You wouldn't clog up all the wall space in a museum with shitty macaroni pictures though. If it were up to me everyone would be limited to one quality submission a month.
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Omfg...lmao.
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I was just kidding. I've actually never read any of them. It's obvious that hardly anyone reads them. It doesn't take a detective to realize this. Go and click on a poem by these people that clog up the front page with a shitty poem after poem everyday and look at the ridiculously low view count compared to stories. Then look at the comments. 99% of the comments are "nice writing -insert authors name-" It's just friends fluffing each other. Putting a child's macaroni artwork on the refrigerator to make them feel important comes to mind. You wouldn't clog up all the wall space in a museum with shitty macaroni pictures though. If it were up to me everyone would be limited to one quality submission a month.


Luckily, it's not up to you.
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Luckily, it's not up to you.


If it weren't for the stories, lush poetry wouldn't exist. How many sites out there exist that consist of just erotic poems? LOL
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If it weren't for the stories, lush poetry wouldn't exist. How many sites out there exist that consist of just erotic poems? LOL



*googles it* umm... yeah... not as many as you'd think...

You can’t truly call yourself peaceful unless you are capable of violence. If you’re not capable of violence, you’re not peaceful. You’re harmless.

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If it weren't for the stories, lush poetry wouldn't exist. How many sites out there exist that consist of just erotic poems? LOL



I read more poems than stories.

Some stories are too long. Or I don't have any interest in it, period.

I'm sure I'm not the only one.

Why are poems being bashed now?
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Why are poems being bashed now?





because mod bashing season is over?

You can’t truly call yourself peaceful unless you are capable of violence. If you’re not capable of violence, you’re not peaceful. You’re harmless.

In the end, its a decision I would not wish to make. Ultimately, its up to the leadership. Whatever the ending, one question should arise...is the poem or story worthy of being published? I am guilty of many poems and those that may know me also know I am not into number games. That being said...let the good rhymes roll and not sling hash. Limitations are not necessarily the answer. Its a common sense thing and nothing else because the issue has a answer. Whatever it is, applies to all.
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I read more poems than stories.

Some stories are too long. Or I don't have any interest in it, period.

I'm sure I'm not the only one.

Why are poems being bashed now?





Why do poems have such a low view count compared to stories? Is it because most casual Lush stories members read more poems or stories?

Poems are being bashed now because 99% of them SUCK. Most of them belong in the forum or should go directly to the poem category and not the front page. The author's friends and stalkers would still be able to find them just fine. Some of the spam I get asking to read the poems are longer than the poems themselves......... Just spam your friends with the damn poem and save everyone the annoyance of having to review them and put them on the front page.
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because mod bashing season is over?


I never bashed you, hon..xxxoo
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*googles it* umm... yeah... not as many as you'd think...


But there are exclusive poem sites that have an erotic category right? Maybe the lush poets should consider submitting to those sites...
The entire thing is taking on to many legs. There is an underlying reason for it and it should come to the top. I wouldn't want to be in a position of denying someone's work because of limitations...then it becomes political. It COULD be conceived as a slap in the face. The real problem is not the writers...it's the NON-WRITERS. What difference does it make whether it's poetry or Mother Goose...if you don't wish to read it, scroll down to something else.
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I was just kidding. I've actually never read any of them. It's obvious that hardly anyone reads them. It doesn't take a detective to realize this. Go and click on a poem by these people that clog up the front page with a shitty poem after poem everyday and look at the ridiculously low view count compared to stories. Then look at the comments. 99% of the comments are "nice writing -insert authors name-" It's just friends fluffing each other. Putting a child's macaroni artwork on the refrigerator to make them feel important comes to mind. You wouldn't clog up all the wall space in a museum with shitty macaroni pictures though. If it were up to me everyone would be limited to one quality submission a month.


Don't underestimate macaroni artwork! LOL

I guess I fit Felix' description. I only read poems by friends, if I read any at all. That's not to say that there aren't any good, funny or erotic poems here, because there are. But the ratio of poems that I can relate to vs ones that I find a waste of time reading is just too low. That's in general, not just here on Lush. Poems are just not my cup of tea.
When it's a poem by a friend, then that fact makes it more interesting to me.


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just for Felix lmao




As a few have mentioned, this has drawn too much heat, unnecessarily.

We are going to change the site set up, so that stories only, will be loaded by default on the front page (this is a story site, the bias is being taken away, and that's not ok). Poems will have their own separate tab, so that those who wish to read only poetry, can click the link.

Members will be able to (coding time permitting) choose in their settings, which loads by default on the main page.

I can't think of a better solution. I do enjoy reading quality poetry, however there has to be a balance.
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As a few have mentioned, this has drawn too much heat, unnecessarily.

We are going to change the site set up, so that stories only, will be loaded by default on the front page (this is a story site, the bias is being taken away, and that's not ok). Poems will have their own separate tab, so that those who wish to read only poetry, can click the link.

Members will be able to (coding time permitting) choose in their settings, which loads by default on the main page.

I can't think of a better solution. I do enjoy reading quality poetry, however there has to be a balance.


So unless someone chooses to change to the poetry as a home page or click on a poetry tab, they won't see the poetry at all? Is this for erotic and love poems?
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So unless someone chooses to change to the poetry as a home page or click on a poetry tab, they won't see the poetry at all? Is this for erotic and love poems?


There'll be two tabs on the front page itself, not just the regular tabs to the side. One will be for stories and the other for poems, so the poem option will still be on the home page, but the default will be with stories. When you click to poems, I believe it'll be both categories of them.

I don't know if I'm doing a good job explaining that, but as a person who loves poetry, I can tell you that I think it's a great idea if that means anything.
Quote by nicola
As a few have mentioned, this has drawn too much heat, unnecessarily.

We are going to change the site set up, so that stories only, will be loaded by default on the front page (this is a story site, the bias is being taken away, and that's not ok). Poems will have their own separate tab, so that those who wish to read only poetry, can click the link.

Members will be able to (coding time permitting) choose in their settings, which loads by default on the main page.

I can't think of a better solution. I do enjoy reading quality poetry, however there has to be a balance.



I think this is a great idea.

There is definitely a divide of sorts between stories and poems. Some can't see the appeal (or skill) in the other genre. However, in my opinion, both have the same, and different, qualities needed for producing Lush's highest standards. They are both art forms that some are (and aren't) proficient in. But I do believe there should be a place for both here, regardless of which type the writers choose.

Since the poetry section has grown so big, so quickly (like a flaccid willy to hard, throbbing cock in seconds), it is going to upset people not to see it on the front page. However, I think that giving it its own "front page" is a step forward for those of us who love poetry. It might not be the first thing people see, but it does have its own recognition. Therefore, I think that the poets would be pleased to see this change as a positive acknowledgement. It is a wonderful change because those who spend weeks and months on stories, but can't see the same work in poetry, should be glad to have that little longer view on Lush's main home page.

As to "emo" poetry, I believe it has its place (half my stuff is downright depressing, and that's just the funny ones). But I also believe in poets taking a journey with their work. Where so many submissions are down or depressing, it can flavour sections. As I see it, Lush is so much to so many. Therefore, whilst "imbalances" are normal, it doesn't hurt to address them.

Sprite, in my opinion, can state her opinion as a member, because she did so. Had she spoken as a mod, she would not have stated it wasn't official. Stuff being labelled a Mod! It doesn't take away your right to have a personal opinion, particularly when it's stated it's personal. If it was a paid, contracted position, unless it said the moderator had no personal preferences allowed, they could still say what they thought. It doesn't mean policy will be swayed by that individual's preference. I know that for definite.

I also know that individual measures on members are thought through, hashed and re-hashed, for the good of not only the site, but each individual using it, whatever position they prefer.

This is the most I've written for over a month, and I'm sure nobody's going to read it all. But this is an achievement for me at the moment, so I'm posting it anyway.

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Why do poems have such a low view count compared to stories? Is it because most casual Lush stories members read more poems or stories?

Poems are being bashed now because 99% of them SUCK. Most of them belong in the forum or should go directly to the poem category and not the front page. The author's friends and stalkers would still be able to find them just fine. Some of the spam I get asking to read the poems are longer than the poems themselves......... Just spam your friends with the damn poem and save everyone the annoyance of having to review them and put them on the front page.



Who suddenly made You an expert on poetry? You haven't even written one so you wouldn't know a good one from a bad one. Personal opinion? You don't like ANY of mine yet 2 of them have Recommended Reads, as do a lot of other poems on lush. A great many poems have EP's. Those aren't given out freely and it is not just the opinion of one mod either. Does that mean you don't know a good poem from a bad one? Or does it mean your EP's and RR's suck?

I've never hidden the fact I would be upset if the poetry category was canned but I don't post on the forums saying all stories or one particular category sucks. Don't readers want variety? If I had $1 for every time a reader told me they hadn't bothered reading poetry until they noticed one or two on the home page or elsewhere, I would be able to shout a few gold memberships. They are only the ones who have mentioned it.

So if readers have to specifically look for the poetry my guess is it's going to bring the numbers down on the poetry. Is that going to be the first step towards getting rid of it altogether?

It's evident a lot of members think poetry is easier to write than a story. A lot of people who say that have never tried writing a decent poem. I have some that I spent a couple of WEEKS fine tuning so how is that any different?

It doesn't matter now anyway. It's been done.

Has anyone even said what the reason is for even wanting to get rid of it altogether?
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Who suddenly made YOU an expert on poetry? You haven't even written one so you wouldn't know a good one from a bad one? Personal opinion? You don't like ANY of mine yet 2 of them have Recommended Reads, as do a lot of other poems on lush. A great many poems have EP's. Those aren't given out freely and it is not just the opinion of one mod either. Does that mean you don't know a good poem from a bad one?

I've never hidden the fact I would be upset if the poetry category was canned but I don't post on the forums saying all stories or one particular category sucks. Don't readers want variety? If I had $1 for every time a reader told me they hadn't bothered reading poetry until they noticed one or two on the home page or elsewhere, is be able to shout a few gold memberships. They are only the ones who have mentioned it.

So if readers have to specifically look for the poetry my guess is it's going to bring the numbers down on the poetry. Is that going to be the first step towards getting rid of it altogether?

It's evident a lot of members think poetry is easier to write than a story. A lot of people who say that have never tried writing a decent poem. I have some that I spent a couple of WEEKS fine tuning so how is that any different?

Has anyone even said what the reason is for even wanting to get rid of it altogether?


I don't think anyone wants to do that. Poetry has a place. Now it'll be even easier to spot. Feel like a poem? Change tabs. Boom.
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There'll be two tabs on the front page itself, not just the regular tabs to the side. One will be for stories and the other for poems, so the poem option will still be on the home page, but the default will be with stories. When you click to poems, I believe it'll be both categories of them.

I don't know if I'm doing a good job explaining that, but as a person who loves poetry, I can tell you that I think it's a great idea if that means anything.


Oops. Sorry, I missed this post.

EVEN though I would like to stay in a cranky mood and pout, I will agree it might be a good thing.
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Oops. Sorry, I missed this post.

EVEN though I would like to stay in a cranky mood and pout, I will agree it might be a good thing.


I think it's a great idea to split stories and poems and it has the potential to improve the site for poets.

Instead of being limited to two categories of poem, with its own section of the site there could be as many categories for poems as there are stories. If the community drives it, it could even lead to designated poem verifiers, Recommended Poems and more poetry based competitions.

Of course it will be a long road to get to that position but the opportunities created by splitting poetry from stories seem, to me least, to outweigh the disadvantages.
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I was just kidding. I've actually never read any of them. It's obvious that hardly anyone reads them. It doesn't take a detective to realize this. Go and click on a poem by these people that clog up the front page with a shitty poem after poem everyday and look at the ridiculously low view count compared to stories. Then look at the comments. 99% of the comments are "nice writing -insert authors name-" It's just friends fluffing each other. Putting a child's macaroni artwork on the refrigerator to make them feel important comes to mind. You wouldn't clog up all the wall space in a museum with shitty macaroni pictures though. If it were up to me everyone would be limited to one quality submission a month.


I actually agree, I love writing poetry and I only submit what I feel has substance. Some of the poetry I read on here is pretty juvenile and yet it gets great scores and comments. To each his own though...I'm not saying I'm a great writer, It's just my opinion.

Please check out my stories. <3
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As a few have mentioned, this has drawn too much heat, unnecessarily.

We are going to change the site set up, so that stories only, will be loaded by default on the front page (this is a story site, the bias is being taken away, and that's not ok). Poems will have their own separate tab, so that those who wish to read only poetry, can click the link.

Members will be able to (coding time permitting) choose in their settings, which loads by default on the main page.

I can't think of a better solution. I do enjoy reading quality poetry, however there has to be a balance.


It would make sense ( well, at least to me ) that for paying members, the writings of anyone you follow would show up in a feed.

You login as a paying member and there are all the latest writings of everyone you FOLLOW showing up in real time like a Facebook feed.

If coding permits, that would be the route to take.

Your solution would work fine for nonpaying members, provided the links to the Poetry are highly visible.

As opposed to Literotica that has no real time anything, where the Poetry links are buried so far down the main menu that very few people "stumble" into that section - these being the main reasons why it is a Dead Poetry Society.