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Started on Lit, and still there. Added SOL on the advice of Danielle Kitten, and still there. I actually found Lush while doing traffic comparisons of text erotica sites on Alexa before Amazon put almost everything behind a pay wall. Those are the big 3 as far as traffic.

I personally feel they also provide all the versatility an erotica author needs to provide a home to any idea that might cross their mind. SOL's single content restriction means that more or less anything goes, so there's a home for ideas too extreme for the other two. Work shorter than 5k words ( including poetry ) simply doesn't perform very well on the other sites, while on Lush, it gets reasonable readership in comparison to 5-10k word stories, and outperforms even longer work. SOL's tag-based navigation and Lush's expanded categories both serve to prevent opposing camps from developing within categories as they do on Lit and trying to run each other off... *cough* Loving Wives *cough* or dominate a category so thoroughly that the second facet of the category is virtually eradicated ( & , which are separate here, preventing that from happening ) Lit's contests are major traffic draws, and there's just no comparison to the traffic overall.

Having all three sites in your utility belt means that you don't need to make your idea conform to any one site's content restrictions or readership preferences, which can stifle your creativity. Run with your idea, and then home it where it is within content bounds and will get a response that rewards the effort you put forth. Every site will organically end up with exclusive content from you, meaning your more devoted fans often end up contributing to all three sites as well, in at least some small way.
Remember, the description line is right there below the title everywhere it appears. You can have a nebulous or clever title and still call out the salacious details in the description line, thereby getting the best of both worlds.
It also becomes a job rather quickly, I should imagine. You have some element of that with camgirls, but they have a lot more leeway to just say to hell with it if they don't feel like performing that day, unless they're one of the rare studio girls, or foolishly trying to make a living of it.

That's exactly why I've never published any of my work for pay. As soon as I consider it, it starts feeling like a job instead of a diversion, and I sour on the whole process.
Been away for a while, and didn't notice the replies.

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Congratulations! Here's to number 19!


Thanks! It will be a while, most likely. The next two in line are moving at a much slower pace. I'm guessing November for the next one.

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Fab banner for 'Unsealed' - it gives me pleasure as a work of art in itself. Great story it links to as well. :-)


Thank you much! Full cover image is in my gallery as well. I do love the fantasy creature stories. They never get much play here, but I post them anyway because I have so much fun writing them and figuring out the logistics of strange sizes/odd appendages ;)
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I probably underestimated the degree to which exhibitionism and the desire for fame/celebrity status has in this, probably because I have so little of it myself. Getting recognized in public seems like a liability. I do want to be noticed for my writing, but that is very different. For one thing, I don't have my real name on either site.


Well, very few of the girls are using their real names on the sites either. Most aren't using anything even close. They don't get recognized as often as you might think, though. Most of the patrons aren't exactly looking at their faces, after all. They could probably spot their favorite girls' nipples in a crowd of a thousand, but might pass right by her in an airport and not even realize it.

My Baileykins got recognized three times. Once in an airport. Once by the desk attendant at the Bellagio in Vegas. Once by a vendor at a Green Day concert. Fortunately, all three were rather respectful of her — if more than a little awestruck. They only spoke in vague terms about where they knew her from, weren't all up in her space, and didn't drag out the encounter. She gave them all little "codes" to announce who they were in chat, and gave them all a nice, long, bouncy titty show when they showed up in her room.

At least, those are the only times she was sure because they said something. At least a half dozen times, she was fairly certain someone had recognized her, and was afraid to approach her/mention it.

I'm actually more widely known for some gamefaqs I wrote years ago and an add-on I helped code for Invision forums back in the day. Every so often, someone will make the connection and bring those things up here and elsewhere I'm posting.

But, like I said, the motivations to be a camgirl or watch one are as varied as people. I'm just pointing out the most common examples and situations.
The girls who have either a studio address or a PO Box someone else can pick things up from ( if they're wise ) and have cultivated a following are often sent things as well. Off the top of my head I can think of several expensive lingerie outfits, a leather corset, a chainmail bikini, 8 or 9 nice necklaces/bracelets/ankle bracelets/hood rings that Bailey got over the years. Not to mention half a dozen new toys. They'll send stuff to see her wearing/using it, and after that point, it becomes part of her arsenal. Upgrades to cams, computers, etc. aren't unusual either. Some of the sites even have blind ways for people to order things ( usually toys and lingerie ) where it gets sent to the model by the site. The site naturally profits from directing customers to the sales site.

It's nearly impossible to make a living at it nowadays, but a girl who can pay her bills without it can pick up some nice perks. The money is easy for an exhibitionist with an outgoing personality, it can be done at home whenever they feel like it with a reasonable internet connection, damn near any computer, and even a webcam. They can almost make a living at it, but it's the almost that's the problem. Anxiety about paying the bills is a camgirl's worst enemy.

There is a degree of celebrity to it as well. It can be a thrill to have all these guys turning up every day for you on the site. Getting recognized out in public can be exciting, awkward, creepy, or even dangerous. Kind of a crapshoot there.

Girls in their 30s and 40s have a more specialized audience, but there are a lot more paying customers and fewer freeloaders among them. The freeloaders are all off perving on the 19/20 year olds, and the desperate girls finger-banging in free chat, while the lonely guys with money are often drawn to someone who is even slightly more "in their league". Just being hot isn't enough once they get a little older. They have to cultivate those relationships to keep the money coming in.

Most make the mistake of starting to "give it away" with lots of free peeks when the money slows down because it fills their rooms up. That just fills it up with freeloaders, though. The people willing to open their wallets can't have a decent conversation amidst that cacophony of "get yer kit off" "shoe my u oussy plzzzzz!" and that keeps them from pulling the trigger. The girls who do it infrequently ( or "accidentally" when they end up back in free chat after a private show ) and make the guys work for it do better because the freeloaders move on, and it encourages interaction, which is where the real income potential is.
I've been a chatter, a chat admin, and my Baileykins was a camgirl for years. I've been behind the curtain, and I know what those girls are saying when they shut the cam off, as well as what happens in the private shows.

The guys who are spending the money ( as opposed to the people there looking for free peeks ) are often very lonely for one reason or another. What a ( good ) camgirl provides is a pseudo relationship that helps to fill that yawning void. As often as not, those private shows have very little that's sexual about them. It can be hours of simply talking to an attractive woman, which is something they don't expect to ever experience in their real life.

The other thing is guys with kinks that they're afraid to reveal. A good camgirl has all sorts of weird accessories readily at hand to satisfy those. Baby oil. Balloons of every shape, size, and color. A multitude of outfits, heels, etc.

The rest is just guys who want to direct the action. There's probably something in particular that really turns them on, and doesn't show up very often in repetitive professional porn videos or poorly shot/lighted amateur videos.

As to the camgirls, the good ones enjoy the attention, and enjoy fulfilling the needs of the guys ( and a few girls ) who show up in their room. They know it's not a way to make a living, but rather a way to make some extra cash on the side. Unfortunately, a lot of them are trying to make a living of it, for a variety of reasons. They typically burn out quickly in today's environment where there is too much competition and too many sites spreading out the paying customers too thin. Cultivating and maintaining a large enough following to achieve a steady income is nearly impossible, and requires spending most of the day promoting themselves. They're working twelve or more hours a day just to barely get by.

The motivations are as varied as people. Some are desperate. Lost their jobs, or can't find one, or got out of a relationship and find themselves without support in a place far from family, etc. There's always a few who are on drugs, and using it as a means to support their habit. Some are simply using it as a safer alternative to straight up prostitution. Feeds coming out of other countries ( the former Soviet bloc countries in particular are bad about this ) may be either full on forced, or blackmailed into being on cam.

That's just the camgirl sites. It gets even weirder once you start getting into onlyfans, premium snap, etc.

Most girls are finding that the only way to make real money nowadays is to both be on live cam as well as producing custom/kink videos that are available for purchase. The days when you could make $600 a week after taxes just being on cam 6 hours a day are long, long gone. ( As are sites that actually pay models as employees as opposed to independent contractors )
"Milf Allie" just became my #18 famous story

Updated the sig with the next closest one, "Her Cut to the Chase". The young man who cuts her grass — Chase — is a frequent source of fantasy for her. At the local fair, an overheard conversation hints that she may not have to confine him to the realm of fantasy any longer...
Well, it's been five months, and "Milf Allie" is less than 100 away from Famous now.

Famous Track 20k+
Milf Allie 25786 -> 26585 -> 27079 -> 27380 -> 28807 -> 29905 ~219/mo. Aug. 2020
Fixed Wright Up 26149 -> 27024 -> 27487 -> 27644 -> 28466 -> 29309 ~168/mo. Nov. 2020
Her Cut to the Chase 25926 -> 26409 -> 26642 -> 26687 -> 27055 -> 27423 ~73/mo. 2023
Morning Jo 18925 -> 22868 -> 24299 -> 24594 -> 25806 -> 27154 ~269/mo. 2021
Three Alarm 24217 -> 24517 ->24665 -> 24688 -> 25041 -> 25325 ~56/mo.2026
Good Will 23901 -> 24186 -> 24327 -> 24358 -> 24763 -> 25146 ~76/mo. 2025
Selfie Stuck 21176 -> 22660 -> 23374 ->23588 -> 24459 -> 25131 ~134/mo. 2023
Kitty in the Cream 22929 -> 23319 -> 23540 -> 23605 -> 23938 ->24194 ~51/mo. 2025
Hard Times 22506 -> 22823 -> 22985 -> 23025 -> 23513 -> 23795 ~56/mo.
Summer's Heat 21565 ->22138 -> 22392 -> 22463 -> 22855 -> 23332 ~95mo. 2025
Jerk 21351 -> 21744 -> 21883 -> 21939 -> 22638 -> 22971 ~66/mo.
Souvenir 21185 -> 21503 -> 21647 -> 21684 -> 22086 -> 22371 ~57/mo.
Sunny Daze 20779 -> 21526 -> 21597 -> 22023 -> 22428 ~81/mo.
Taste the Rainbow 20085 ->20431 -> 20518 -> 21060 -> 21659 ~119/mo. 2025
Double Booked 19919 -> 20357 -> 20903 ~109/mo.
Heart-Shaped Box 20211-> 20531 ~64/mo.
A Sale of Two Titties 19823 -> 20161 ~67/mo.
Vicki Cleans Up 19739 -> 20201 ~92/mo.

About to join the 20k club
And I'll Get a Pole 19571 -> 19836 ~53/mo.
Divorcing My Vibe 19044 -> 19339 ~59/mo.

Legendary Track
Nude Holly Day 81714 -> 83257 -> 84094 -> 84298 -> 85406 -> 86926 ~304/mo. 2024
Dip in the Lake 60592 -> 60975 -> 61303 -> 61423 -> 62256 -> 62669 ~82/mo.
A Fine Substitute 54190 -> 55974 -> 56474 -> 56630 -> 57539 -> 58535 ~199/mo.
Mom's Second Chance 45654 -> 47036 ~276/mo.
Like Riding a Bike 41763 -> 42739 -> 43306 -> 43470 -> 44065 -> 44796 ~119/mo.

Everything has slowed down except for Nude Holly Day. It's #1 on the Mature popular list, so that keeps it afloat. Haven't released a Mature or Milf story since December, so that's probably what's slowing me down. It's my big draw, and I haven't been putting out any to attract new readers to my back catalog. Almost everything I've put out this year has been 2500 words or 100 word microfiction.

The microfiction contest will be my last. There's like 20 top tier writers entering regularly, so there's not even space in the top 10 list for an honorable mention. For the rest of us, that just means 30 days of not being able to see your stats, which are always lower due to ( appropriately ) more critical voting during contests. I haven't seen any measurable increase in readership from contests, ( other than the microfiction one ) and those little dings to the score hurt the long-term visibility, so the contests are a net negative for anyone who isn't in that top tier of writers. The one time I placed was because it was a sponsored contest and not very many people followed the theme very well. silly
Image uploads are done through your settings page, here: https://www.lushstories.com/membership/details/imagegallery.aspx

If that's not available, it must be one of the things restricted to paid memberships. I can't remember for sure what all you can do with a free account.

Once you have images in your gallery, there will be an option to use one of them as a cover image on the story submission form.
Guess I'm going to be the odd man out here.

Yes.

There comes a point where you've been ridden hard and put away wet several times a day, by more than one girl at a time, in long sessions, for several days in a row, where the slightest rush of blood causes a sensation not unlike a madman is gleefully beating your junk with a rubber mallet. Add in facial road rash and chapped cheeks from having a face full of pussy on a near constant basis, plus sheer exhaustion, and there's absolutely a point where you have to beg off for a day.
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Yeah, if the style varied significantly, it might prompt a mod to do a little digging. Take it as a compliment - usually only high quality stories get checked for plagiarism.


Doesn't bother me at all smile Like I said, it's a quick and easy clarification through my website. I actually get a warm, fuzzy feeling knowing that even if it's rarely, the mods are looking out for authors by attempting to halt attempts at plagiarism.
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It's not something that's done routinely or often. I'm surprised it's happened to RR so often actually.


Three different times. Of course, that's over my whole tenure here, so not all that often. The tone and style of my Les and especially Dark pieces are sometimes radically different than my RR stuff, so it's not surprising that it would look out of place when I put one of them in the queue.
One thing not mentioned here so far is mods checking for the story appearing elsewhere on the internet under a different name, which helps prevent people stealing work and posting it as their own. Because I have three different pen names that I use elsewhere to compartmentalize my stories, I've been asked about this more often than the average member. Fortunately, I have my own website where I can point to the connection between all my names, so it's a quick and easy process to prove they're all mine when I choose to bring a Les or Dark story over here under my RR name.

Even if it's only a small percentage of the mods taking the time to do a plagiarism search, they're doing erotica authors everywhere a great service by blocking people who are trying to capitalize on other people's work. Eventually, someone who is stealing from other authors is going to run afoul of a moderator doing such a search, and probably find themselves perma-banned for it.

While I understand it may not feel that way when you personally receive a rejection, there's also a lot more consistency with regards to content moderation on Lush than elsewhere, where you typically have only 1 or 2 people skimming a ton of submissions by themselves. A lot of things can slip through the cracks with such a rushed approval process, and knee-jerk rejections that mistake something acceptable for banned content are just as likely. The same holds true for grammar. While not every moderator may have a creative writing degree or be a professional editor, they're screening out a lot of painfully bad, almost illiterate dross that ends up getting approved elsewhere because the one person who is approving new content for the site can't take the time to truly read every story. On the flip side, one typo in just the wrong place could get an otherwise perfectly fine story rejected for grammar elsewhere due to the same speed-skimming process.

Having multiple moderators also helps eliminate category bias. When you only have one or two people approving stories, they're going to have things they find boring or even distasteful that are still within content rules. Such a story isn't going to get the same level of fair evaluation as something they enjoy. With a much larger moderation team, a mod can skip that story that gives them the creeps or puts them to sleep, knowing that someone else who is more comfortable with the content will be along soon enough to give it a fair evaluation.
I can tell you right off to count your blessings on Lush. Lush has by far the best comment to view ratio of any of the big 3 sites. The last time I ran a full track on my numbers for all three sites, Lush generated a comment for about every 1500 views, while the average elsewhere was about every 4500 views. Feedback in the form of comments may be rare on Lush, but it's far more likely than anywhere else.

Keep in mind that a large percentage of your readers may very well be doing so one handed. Leaving a comment about a story that hit the spot may the the last thing on their mind at the bottom of the page.
I've never had any issue with my voice being diluted, or my odd turns of phrase being "corrected" — and I use a lot of them. I've had plenty of good communication with story mods when they felt something was unclear or caused a speed bump in the flow, though. I've had mods willing to pre-vet pieces that I was concerned might be dancing too close to content lines, and suggest tweaks to get them through the queue when they did stick a toe over the border with minimal impact to the overall story. Nothing but positive experiences with the verification process here.
63 already, huh? I only just caught up with responding to my comments from the last few days. I'll catch up with the entries on the morrow. With 100 word stories, I'm going to do my best to read everything this time around, even though I'm about 40 behind at this point. LOL
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It's still my reality. It's your reality that I reject ;)
Mine almost always have at least a little dash of reality in there somewhere. It may be something as simple as a silly line about buying multiple copies of Dragon Warrior and Final Fantasy out of a Toys R Us bargain bin in the 90s ( Golden Rolls ) or something that's entirely based upon reality with only a few tweaks for readability. ( Long Distance Lust )

Even my fantasy stories have tiny little smidgens of things that happened in real life in there, because those nuggets were part of the adventures in my custom-made PnP role-playing game that the stories are spawned from.

I wonder sometimes if Christi or Alicia have ever stumbled across my stories, seen their names, and connected the dots. LOL There's really nothing of either of them in the stories beyond their names and hair colors, because I didn't know either of them well enough to inject any of their personality/quirks into the characters, but those names are reasonably unique enough that they'd be hard pressed to rationalize it was coincidence. I would hope that they appreciate their namesakes being sexy badasses if they ever do stumble across them.

Any time there's a camgirl or other type of distance sex work in a story, there's a lot of reality in there. I have an infinite supply of real experiences I was either a part of in some capacity, or heard first hand immediately after the fact. Camgirls need to let off steam, and as the SO of a camgirl and an admin on the site, I was a preferred sounding board for that kind of thing.

Blood Island from Kindred of the Wood was a real place, and portrayed exactly as I remember it. Same with the waterfall camp. Things getting thrown "over the hill" in Steward of the Wood and at least one other story were taken from my grandparents' place, where broken appliances, farm implements, chicken heads, fish guts, and pretty much anything that wouldn't burn went over the hill into the ravine next to the garage, to be used as target practice for rifles and shotguns. Most anything with unmanaged woods comes from memories of the woods behind my grandparents' house.

I'm sure that the river community of Dodge City with stolen street signs of every kind ( including a sign on each end of the community stolen from the outskirts of the real Dodge City ) and quirky ( to say the least ) residents will eventually make an appearance somewhere. Same with the not far away "Stink Road" where everyone cleaned their massive flathead catfish after showing them to everyone they knew and taking a ton of pictures. The heads and bones were left hanging from stringers along Stink Road as macabre trophy gallery of generations. Some had names and dates scrimshawed into the skulls, and they were often rehung when the stringers rotted away.

It's not hard to imagine how Stink Road got its name. A lot of huge ( 40-60 lb. ) catfish come out of the river every year.

There's a lot of real experiences in the sex scenes. Being with a bisexual camgirl leads to a lot of wild and interesting times.

TL/DR, I don't write much in the way of true stories, but there's bits of reality in virtually everything.
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The trouble is, it's only after it's submitted that the 101 count shows, by which time it's too late to edit it.... ?


May have to knock it down to 99 in the editor to get it to show 100 on the next page. Those tricks might work for that. Hopefully it won't then register as 99 on the next page due to some other idiosyncrasy of how that page counts words.
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Help please! I have a problem already. When I hit "submit story", the text editor definitely said 100 words. But on the next screen it said 101. How do I get round this?


I'd make sure the cursor is sitting immediately after the final bit of punctuation at the end of the story when you hit submit as well. If the screens are registering different word counts, you never know what could be triggering it.

Beyond that, any words you can merge into contractions? Maybe somewhere you can take advantage of the way the editor counts correctly used em dashes that connect two words without spaces as though they were a hyphenated word, giving you a freebie? ( You're only trying to eliminate a discrepancy between the word count of the two pages, so it's not really cheating )
Side note: The cool-down time limit between casting votes is a little frustrating when reading in the microfiction category. Acceptable and understandable because it's a necessary mitigation measure against voting shenanigans, but still frustrating.
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oh, and i edited that out - the typewriter is now a cat. you can thank me when you win. smile


That reminds me that I really need to get "Feline Nemesis" for Storiesspace back into my queue as soon as I've cleared a couple of WIPs. A ghost trying to haunt the home of people with cats. Every thing he tries to do gets blamed on the furballs and ignored. Poor guy can't even beat his head against the wall in frustration.
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and rejected, on the basis of... err... give me a minute, i'll think of a reason biggrin


LOL

I'm just hoping not too many people scream in frustration at me stealing the obvious cue of the typewriter right out of the gate.
Well, I thought I was done with microfiction for a while, but that image worked for me.

"Scarlet Muse" is already in the queue
I actually have a tentacle story in the pipeline, but it's chronologically indisposed at the moment, because I need to finish the next in the series first. I didn't leave any wiggle room to change the order of the stories at the end of the last one.
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Something tells me Lush writers are enjoying the Micro challenge more than those who come to Lush primarily or even exclusively to read stories and/or socialize. It'll be interesting to see what sort of response linked series generate.



Lush writers also seem to enjoy reading and commenting on them, so that's good enough for me.

They get more votes and comments than most Fantasy & Sci-Fi LOL

Put my last one in the queue for a while. Did a 180 flip from the first two, so we'll see how this one goes.
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Rather than just having a tab like now - Stories - Poems - Microfiction - All
Please could we have checkboxes, so we can choose 2 of the 3 to show on our listing.

So far, this category isn't doing it for me and I know many are not interested in poems. If you can give people the option without too much work, why not?


This.

I've said before that I don't get poetry, so that doesn't really interest me. I'd like to have micros showing up on my main page view, though. An option to choose which tabs appear as part of your main page view would be much appreciated.
Figured out my word count issue.

If anybody else is having problems with word count overflow, you might want to look at em-dashes. If they're not connecting words with no spaces as style guides dictate, they end up counting as words in Lush's word count.

Posted the one I was struggling with last night, and I have one more that finally brings a little heat, which I'll put up in a couple of days. Then it's back to WIPs.