I'd say the problem here is that the existence of the baby first came up after extensive testing and finally a date.
That screams 'here is a woman with issues'
If she's any kind of a proud mother she would have at least mentioned the baby. I would have serious concerns about her honesty in other areas as well.
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realz
Over 90 days ago
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Being passive.
Interestingly enough it was something that I wouldn't have expected. But one day as we were starting to to get into it, she was just a bit too tired, so she spread her legs and said "just take me". And I did. I thrust into that passive body again and again and came really hard. I can't explain it but somehow I felt more intensely male at that point than usual, I claimed her body, I pleasured myself in her body. And as we cuddled together afterwards, she obviously had enjoyed it too.
Interestingly enough it was something that I wouldn't have expected. But one day as we were starting to to get into it, she was just a bit too tired, so she spread her legs and said "just take me". And I did. I thrust into that passive body again and again and came really hard. I can't explain it but somehow I felt more intensely male at that point than usual, I claimed her body, I pleasured myself in her body. And as we cuddled together afterwards, she obviously had enjoyed it too.
By her actions she seems to be showing that her husband's assessment was right. She is manipulative.
When it comes to banter, though, my wife plays the 'reward' bit (in a friendly way). When we looked a piece of jewelry she said that she "wouldn't be able to say no for a month". When I opened my wallet to hand some cash she asked me if I had any extra there "for the dresser"
When it comes to banter, though, my wife plays the 'reward' bit (in a friendly way). When we looked a piece of jewelry she said that she "wouldn't be able to say no for a month". When I opened my wallet to hand some cash she asked me if I had any extra there "for the dresser"
Maybe you ladies can give me some insight.
Unlike the other women I've been with, my current wife seems somewhat indifferent to orgasms. Most women I've been with wanted me to finish the job (orally or with fingers--which I was happy to do) if they outlasted me. My wife, though, once I've come, whether she's already come or not, just wants to cuddle at that point, she actually discourages me from any further stimulation. I've tried to ask her about this, but she just turns the question around into 'didn't you enjoy it?', which I certainly did..
Unlike the other women I've been with, my current wife seems somewhat indifferent to orgasms. Most women I've been with wanted me to finish the job (orally or with fingers--which I was happy to do) if they outlasted me. My wife, though, once I've come, whether she's already come or not, just wants to cuddle at that point, she actually discourages me from any further stimulation. I've tried to ask her about this, but she just turns the question around into 'didn't you enjoy it?', which I certainly did..
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... no, its not a turn on.
Like X said, that can be creepy! But it also depends on how the person is looking too. If he is bending over and obviously trying to look, than that is creepy. But if it is sort of "accidental" followed by a little smile, than its cool I guess.
As a guy I try to make sure my response is brief, friendly and appreciative. I want the woman in question to know that she put a smile on my face and a skip in my heartbeat ... and our 'secret' is completely safe.
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Eyes usually.......unless she's naked the first time I see her. Then it's kinda hard to concentrate.
Funny thing, being a nudist club member, it's not uncommon to meet someone the first time naked. and then it's actually quite easy to notice the eyes and the smile. clothing is often a distracting tease.
I do, and if anyone wants to judge then so be it...i need the money and sex does not bother me at all
It's really not necessarily different from any other personal service (that is, if it's honestly done... not pretending to like someone to fool them into giving material things). I have argued that one of the most honest relationships is between escort and client. They both know what they're there for. It's simple. Why is it any different from doing someone's laundry for pay, or cooking for pay, or giving a massage for pay? It's a fundamental, natural human service.
[It's not that far from our evolutionary heritage. Unlike most mammals, human females are sexually responsive even when not immediately fertile. This adjustment in our behavior kept the male around which meant more resources for her during the extended times when the young were vulnerable. Non reproductive sex in humans is all about resources.]
My wife usually dislikes wearing a bra, though she often does at work because of complaints from her female boss. The bra usually comes off as soon as she hits her car.
She's got perky B boobs with pointy nipples (could still pass the 'pencil' test) at 51 (people rarely guess her age). Last night she arrived home from work, with the bra as usual removed and shoved in her bag leaving only a translucent white top -- looked great and provided a bit for the guys to look at when we stopped at the deli for sandwiches.
She's got perky B boobs with pointy nipples (could still pass the 'pencil' test) at 51 (people rarely guess her age). Last night she arrived home from work, with the bra as usual removed and shoved in her bag leaving only a translucent white top -- looked great and provided a bit for the guys to look at when we stopped at the deli for sandwiches.
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But I do believe if a woman wants to have sex for money, it is her business and it does not make her a bad person. If no one is getting hurt and it is consentual, it should be here right. It is just not something I would do. JMO!
Agreed. so much seems to be made of this, but I suspect it's a cultural thing to try to keep women from 'taking advantage' of their sex appeal.
Ladies, it's your choice and your business. Nothing to apologize for.
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But... I've always wondered if it's ever bothered the men to know that the women are in it only for the cash and security. I know there is the whole illusion of the let's make-believe we are all super happy and in love factor.... but... are the men aware of the reality of the situation and not caring about it, or are they thinking that the woman has fallen for his "effervescent charisma" or some other random trait....
I'm sure there's both kinds of situation. And the one can be tragic, as well as cruel
But I suspect that many times both parties have a pretty good idea of the dynamic and are comfortable with it. I'm not in such a situation, but if circumstances were different I could well imagine that lifestyle.
I've discussed it elsewhere, but I would argue that deep down the nature of human evolution has actually made this type of situation quite normal.
Realistically, I have no problem as long as she's fair about it too.
I'm there for the sex (also prestige), she's there for the money. That's an honest trade, probably more honest than many conventional relationships. She's providing a service, it's only fair that she get her payment also.
I'm there for the sex (also prestige), she's there for the money. That's an honest trade, probably more honest than many conventional relationships. She's providing a service, it's only fair that she get her payment also.
It can be erotic, though even with a fully submissive woman it's not my nature to be all that controlling. I've not had an experience, I am sure, quite like you're describing.
The closest I've come to being in that situation started when my wife was tired one time, spread her legs and said 'just take me'. So I did, she was a living 'fuck doll' and everything I did was all about my pleasure. It was surprisingly erotic, more than I would have expected.
The closest I've come to being in that situation started when my wife was tired one time, spread her legs and said 'just take me'. So I did, she was a living 'fuck doll' and everything I did was all about my pleasure. It was surprisingly erotic, more than I would have expected.
As you can guess there is quite a stew of intoxicating things about the right woman. Physically I love the whole package but physically it's legs and hips. I try to be discreet but I probably stare too much.
There is nothing more erotic than a woman who understands her sexuality and knows how to use it. The woman who can tease with her eyes knowing she is arousing me and enjoying the power. Closely associated with that is peek-a-boo clothing, lace, sheer, skirts that flip giving brief glimpse of heaven. All the better when it's obvious that the woman knows exactly what she is doing.
There is nothing more erotic than a woman who understands her sexuality and knows how to use it. The woman who can tease with her eyes knowing she is arousing me and enjoying the power. Closely associated with that is peek-a-boo clothing, lace, sheer, skirts that flip giving brief glimpse of heaven. All the better when it's obvious that the woman knows exactly what she is doing.
It's not all that simple.
In some circumstances it's no more fair for the woman to blame him than it is for him to blame the woman for not coming fast enough. Biology does stuff and it's not really under full control. Personally I have much less control now than I did 30 years ago.
What needs to be done is some loving cooperation between the couple. The resolution may be different with different people, and in some cases it may be up to him to finish her orally either before or after. But ridicule and condemnation will not help.
In some circumstances it's no more fair for the woman to blame him than it is for him to blame the woman for not coming fast enough. Biology does stuff and it's not really under full control. Personally I have much less control now than I did 30 years ago.
What needs to be done is some loving cooperation between the couple. The resolution may be different with different people, and in some cases it may be up to him to finish her orally either before or after. But ridicule and condemnation will not help.
Since this is the 'ask the guys' section, form the guys' perspective it can be devastating.
I don't think many women realize what long term withholding does to a guy, the frustration, the loss of self confidence, how much it can hurt to see a sexy woman, or worse, a demonstrative loving couple.
It will likely end in one of two ways, serious depression, or desparately looking for a woman that will make him feel whole again.
I don't think many women realize what long term withholding does to a guy, the frustration, the loss of self confidence, how much it can hurt to see a sexy woman, or worse, a demonstrative loving couple.
It will likely end in one of two ways, serious depression, or desparately looking for a woman that will make him feel whole again.
Quote by LadyXwe are, by nature a monogamous species
not so much, I'm thinking.
We have more than one behavioral program running in our heads. Long term mating (more or less monogamous) --but not necessarily lifetime mating-- is relatively new in our evolution, but has a survival advantage given the long period of vulnerability of human young. But the instincts we have from further back in our history-- they're not gone, they're just pushed into the background.
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Why do you assume that if you turned into a woman, you would be a lesbian? What if you turned into a really hot straight woman (much more likely, statistically speaking), and just got hit on by guys for a week? You think you'd like that?
I love female bodies. But, honestly, I'm actually quite glad that I'm a man, and would prefer to stay a man for the time being.
Good for you, and no kidding. Perhaps it's because female / female sex is such a huge male fantasy, which is not at all the same as being a lesbian.
Ironic since Loudon Wainwright is gay, as I remember. And, dammit Loudon--it's I wish I were a Lesbian. Get your grammar right
Seriously, though, other than trying to understand women better, I would have no desire to change sides, even for a week. I kinda like who I am.
You've got to let go. It's better now than later. That sounds cruel but really it's not.
The bitterness can eat you though, Try to overcome that (for your own sake).
Not everyone is well suited for monogamy; you are looking for that, but she probably is not. It's ok to feel bad, but give her the freedom to go her way while you go yours.
[having said that, I've been married twice before but in both cases it was not the infidelity itself that ended the marriage. In the one case, however, she fell in love with the guy so there's not much I could do except wish her well.
The bitterness can eat you though, Try to overcome that (for your own sake).
Not everyone is well suited for monogamy; you are looking for that, but she probably is not. It's ok to feel bad, but give her the freedom to go her way while you go yours.
[having said that, I've been married twice before but in both cases it was not the infidelity itself that ended the marriage. In the one case, however, she fell in love with the guy so there's not much I could do except wish her well.