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Quote by Milik_the_Red


Oh, I’m well aware of that fact. I just find that to be a hypocritical attitude.


*shrugs* i'm more interested in keeping a site, which has some standards (most other erotica sites allow non-consent among other things), healthy. if that makes me a hypocrite... i've been called much worse, and i'm not planning on losing sleep over it. smile
Quote by Varrick


Whatever arbitrary rules you put in place are irrelevant. Even if you choose to ignore the moral arguments, the fact is that is illegal. I’m not surprised to see members leaving over this issue, and not only because of the subject itself, but because of the inept way it’s been reintroduced.

There was no consultation with members to see if those of us already here wanted such a category. Instead, you’ve chosen to pander to a crowd that mostly aren’t here anymore, and may never be again. We have been treated with disdain, and as I’ve said elsewhere, that is almost as annoying as the reintroduction itself.


yes, exactly. a crowd that is no longer here. that's the point to this. and i'm not sure how you've been treated with disdain. we're doing our best to answer questions and to be transparent. here. how would you prefer i handle it? i'm always happy to make adjustments, as long as they're sensible.
Quote by Milik_the_Red


You make a valid point here. The reasons for banning or allowing the return of the once banned genre would be the same for allowing or banning forced sex. It too is very popular on sites where it’s allowed. Personally, I dislike censorship and so I am not offended by either type as long as it IS only a FANTASY. So, why is offending the living hell out of one group okay, yet protecting the sensibilities of another unthinkable?

That’s the slippery slope we are on now and refusing to talk about it won’t make things better.


for the record, , non-consent, and forced sex will never be allowed on this site. you have my word on that. and, as you can see, in this regard, the inclusion of the category, IS a topic for discussion.
Quote by JWren
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All sane people understand when decisions are made for financial reasons. It's a pity this wasn't made abundantly clear rather than reintroduced behind the shield of 11 new categories. That's how it felt to me.
Also, it's good to read in a subsequent comment, that you don't condone in "real life." It sadly occurs in life, that's why it's illegal in vast swathes of our planet. Erotica is one thing, illegal perversion is quite different.



we had originally decided to post the new categories without the inclusion of being discussed. the decision to reinstate was Nikki's and it was a last minute addition. i wasn't even aware of it happening until it did, so that should tell you something. it wasn't planned that way, it was mostly a matter of timing. and it's not like it was snuck in - an announcement was made.

yes, sadly, that is true. it does occur in real life and it is illegal, and for good reason. that said, it's a cornerstone of erotic story sites - we could discuss the morality and ethics of this forever, but the bottom line is, we wanted to keep lush a viable site and this became, as Nikki puts it, a "necessary evil".
Quote by Simplicity


As an victim, I find this appalling that you would allow this category. You say you dont justify it in real life... only as a fantasy .. well it was my father’s fantasy too, yet I had to suffer this all my life!!!! So since you are saying fantasies are okay.. does this mean fantasies and forced sex fantasies are acceptable because they are “Fantasies.” Why arent they allowed?


the stories on here are consensual. i am sorry about what happened to you, i truly am, but what happened obviously was not with your consent. and forced sex are, by their very nature, acts of non-consent and therefore will not be published here.

listen, i get that a lot of people aren't happy about this, and i empathize. we tried it the other way, and it wasn't working, so we're setting back the clock to 3 years ago when we had been publishing I stories since the site's conception.
Quote by Whiskey_violet


Thank goodness!

Thank you Sprite, much appreciated. smile


it's what i do. lol
Quote by apptobebad
She has kept me on the straight and narrow at times when I wanted to punch someone in the throat and let loose a torrent of abuse in the forums.




actually, if you'd have done that, you're probably have gotten the award sooner. just sayin' ;)
Quote by sprite


good question - i'm not sure, but i will look into it and give you an answer as soon as i have one smile


yes - we just tested it out - if you have stories blocked and someone you're following writes one, you will NOT get a notification. smile
Quote by Whiskey_violet


If someone we follow publishes a story in a category we have blocked, do we still get the notification about said story?




good question - i'm not sure, but i will look into it and give you an answer as soon as i have one smile
Quote by Gillianleeeza



I had the same exact thoughts. If revenue is the driving force behind this change I wish it would have been open for discussion. I would have gladly paid more for my membership if it would have prevented that category from being resurrected. I am sure I am not alone in that.

I am contemplating my options. I have no illusions that I am anything but an amateurish author but I too feel I don't want my stories on a site that includes that category. I have enjoyed my time here and am truly conflicted about leaving, but I feel that is what will happen and has already begun with other authors leaving.

Discussing it (the reintroduction of the category, not the subject) being verboten too has hit me the wrong way as well. A feature I loved here was the back and forth and exchange of ideas that occurs in the forums. I am just saddened at this point and couldn't just remain silent about how I feel.


we really get that this wasn't going to be a popular move - to be fair, i'd been pushing Nikki to do this for a while, not because i was a fan, but i wanted to see Lush stay solvent. her deciding to bring them back wasn't a decision she wanted to make.

the reality is that we were probably the only erotica website that didn't post the I stories - certainly the only site of this size, and it was hurting us a great deal. web traffic is what pays the bills. ours dropped by 50% after we stopped publishing those stories. 50% that hurt, especially when we went ahead and added servers anyways, just so this site could keep growing. i am deeply humbled to hear that people would have paid more for memberships, but really, it's still peanuts compared to the revenue we need to keep things running, let alone, growing as we'd like. "porn" sites don't generate the ad dollars that they used to, especially if their web traffic is decreasing rather than growing. it's as simple as that.

yes, it sucks. yes, i wish we didn't have to, but we do - the decision was not made lightly, but it was made.
Quote by JWren


free speech


this is a privately owned website with TOS which people agree to abid by when they sign up. one of the stipulations is that certain subjects are not tolerated. is one of them. the stories we publish are fantasies. pure and simple. we do not condone the practice in real life.
Quote by JWren


is back among the story categories. Not apparently a new category (having been banned) so has been smuggled through the backdoor. Can't be bothered to check but I guess has been removed from unacceptable content.
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there was, actually, an annoucement. and, as for as forum posts, it's still not acceptable - only in stories, which are easily blocked.

to address people's concerns. that same standard that applies to other stories applies here. we only accept well written stories. consent is still necessary, the age rule still applies.

bottom line, tho, is i know the stats. the decision really came down to this - either Lush restated this particular category or it eventually we closed the doors. we lost a lot of traffic, which means ads and revenue. that paid member system helped, but the percentage of paid members vs un-paid and non-members is a huge gap. the servers cost, the contests cost, etc etc. personally, i prefer taking on stories over losing what i consider to be the internets best erotica site.

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Anyone who knows me that I am a complete Beatle-file. I love the Beatles; but....Aerosmith's version of ''Come Together" and Joe Cockers "A Little Help from My Friends" are as good as the originals. I can't say better than because that would not be true.


curious if you've seen Across the Universe? and if not, you should. smile
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As much as I love female fighters, those cornrows just just don't do it for me.



yeah, but take it from me - they're hella more practical when getting your face punched in. smile
Quote by LovingSadist
I'd like to see an option for non erotic stories.


not really what we do here - that said, we have a sister site (most people refer to it as the blue site, since that's the color scheme) which publishes non-erotic fiction and poems. here's the link. smile

http://www.storiesspace.com/


Lush started out as primarily an erotic story site, and really, that's still it's main focus. That said, it's become so much more. A community of people with different interests, all brought together by the love of reading and/or writing erotica. There's so much to choose from here, now. The chat rooms for socializing, the Think Tank for thoughtful discussions (and yelling at each other). there's discussions about writing, about sex, about health, and there are games.

I see App's name and avatar all over the place here, and everytime it brings a smile. Seems she's been a part of the site forever, being flirty, funny, clever, insightful, and just plain delightful. I haven't taken the time to get to know her well (my loss, more than hers) but i know enough about her to think that she's pretty darn awesome and that she brings a lot to the site, so yeah, give Ms Barton some love and tell her why YOU think she's awesome.

Thanks for being part of the Lush Experience, App. your presence really does brighten up my day. smile
CG really is one of the sweetest people on the team, as well as a dedicated and hardworking moderator. inspirational, too. well deserved, and i'm proud and humbled to call her a friend.
Quote by trinket
I love watching guys cum but if it hit his own face I'd probably laugh.


Quote by Verbal


No, Nan Midol. It is lesser known than Nan Madol because it only rises from its blood red waters once a month. smile

And I don't want to have sex with a squid. I want to BE the squid.


my new album name: I am the squid. smile
Quote by Poppet


However, as someone who has written on all of the previous categories, it's once again frustrating to have to do it again, because chances are, I'll lose the badge. Isn't there a way to keep our old bade and work out a way to add to that one or something?


we've been discussing a 'fix' for this issue. just not sure what it is yet, but yes, hopefully, those who have it currently will be able to retain a badge of some sort for their efforts. smile
Quote by xanniex
A new one of mine, Trap House. I went back and forth on this one and wasn't sure about posting due to some of the illegal/illicit content, but it was an experience I'll certainly never forget and wanted to share with others. It's under the "College Sex" category, but easily couldn't fit into exhibitionism or voyeur a well. In general, I'm still not very comfortable writing dialogue, so my stories rely heavily on description. I'd love any feedback and/or tips.

xo


it's on my radar - soon as i get a chance, i'll sit down and have a read - at a quick glance it looks like something i'd enjoy. thanks for bringing it to my attention smile
here's the rule i go by. if i get to the door first, and someone else is coming through, i hold it open. man, woman, old, young, doesn't matters. it's not about age or gender, it's just about being polite to another human being.
Quote by Verbal


TEN new categories!? Nice!

Nicola, you put the "ten" in tentacles. smile



@Nikki. i think i've started something that won't go away... sorry boss (not).
Quote by xanniex


Also good info, thanks PS. I'm going to be a bit of a creep for a moment, but I love seeing you pop up in comments and forums. The wit is refreshing. I'll keep an eye out for my badges in 3 years and let you know if there was any progress.


lol - what can i say, i'm an attention whore. also, Nikki uses the electro-shock collar on me if i don't post at least 3 times daily...
flies and buzzards... really should start showering more often...
Quote by nicola
Stay tuned. 10 new categories are on their way!


give me another day - have to finish my bunker and fill it with supplies (food, water, sex toys).
Quote by xanniex


Lovely, thank you for the info!


that said, somehow my badges take 3 years to process... i think someone's jealous.
Quote by CherylK
What about Mystery? Something along the lines of Agatha Christie with sex ... Sparkling Spermicide? (joke). You get the picture smile


if i recall (i'm too lazy to actually go look lol) that's one of the possible new categories. forget if it made the cut, too (again, too lazy too look). hey, what do ya'll want? i'm on vacaction, people! sheesh! smile
Quote by PassionateCeline34
stories would be a good category or Family Love Affairs.


we don't publish stories, so no.