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You can also say you are the King of America. Saying so does not make it so.
Your post was again off-topic, and when you begin posting on-topic, I will respond to the substance of your posts.
On-topic in public, off-topic not in public threads, or not at all Buz,
knock it off, both of you.
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I did,
For Tantaletes, are you referring to the post where she quoted Dr. Stock? I haven't seen anything T's posted that could be confused with in the meantime they should just get over it and accept that they aren't subject to equal treatment or equal protection
Your first “quote” of AngelEthics' refers to a question. It isn't her opinion.
Your second "quote" of AngelEthics' is her interpretation of Dr. Stock's motivation.
So, nobody in this thread has posted a suggestion along the lines if, in the meantime they should just get over it and accept that they aren't subject to equal treatment or equal protection
quote from some guy named Ironic:
And maybe some day in the future, that'll be the way it plays out. That's someday in the future. The effort to suppress the discussion (that may lead to a change in our predefinitions) is happening now.
Just because somebody thinks transwomen are women doesn't mean they are women.
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And maybe some day in the future, that'll be the way it plays out. That's someday in the future. The effort to suppress the discussion (that may lead to a change in our predefinitions) is happening now.
Just because somebody thinks transwomen are women doesn't mean they are women.
It's a bad idea to try to suppress discussing or debating an idea, even if, at first, you don't agree with it.
fyi - homosexuality remains illegal in an estimated 70 countries, and is punishable by death in 11.
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Your sex, my sex, and everybody's sex doesn't depend on engaging in some form of activity. I hope that clears things up for you.
When you say ""that", what argument are you talking about? I'm asking because I don't see how the sex of gays and lesbians would be off limits for debate.
sex is, by definition, an activity. Gender is not, but yeah, sex is. and let me get this clear, you're suggesting that there should be a debate on whether or not gays/lesbians can have sex? lol good luck with that.
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And maybe some day in the future, that'll be the way it plays out. That's someday in the future. The effort to suppress the discussion (that may lead to a change in our predefinitions) is happening now.
It's a bad idea to try to suppress discussing or debating an idea, even if, at first, you don't agree with it.
so, in the meantime they should just get over it and accept that they aren't subject to equal treatment or equal protection. i mean, are you, personally, ok with that? treating them like they are somehow lesser because they are trans? yes, the effort is happening now - both the effort to gain equality as well as take away rights. what should they/we if the anti-trans movement wins? reminds me of a time in our great nation when black people were legally considered 3/5s of a person, tbh.
It's a bad idea to try to suppress discussing or debating an idea, even if, at first, you don't agree with it
you might want to think that true - would have to say that's not true in all cases.
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Transwomen are not women is only a lie if transwomen is predefined as women.
For people who don’t think of transwomen as women but instead think of them as surgically altered homosexuals (gay or lesbian), the basic assumption is faulty.
Men are not women is not hate speech and isn’t a lie.
perhaps we, as a society/culture, need to change our predefinitions, then. as for your second statement, just because someone doesn't think of transwomen as women, doesn't mean they aren't. it's not the assumption that is faulty, it's their perception. and no, men are not women. That said, transwomen are not men.
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Yes. Sex is about reproduction. There's sexual and asexual reproduction. Humans reproduce sexually.
so... since i don't plan on reproducing, i shouldn't be having sex? serious question, btw. is that your stand on it?
Also, that seems to be the argument being thrown in the face of LGTBQ people.
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Yeah, it's a funny category. Stormdog's story in that category was great - so was Kimmi's.
A decent writer knows how to put more emotion into it, which to me is necessary given the subject matter.
this one is so not on par with Summer, btw. and yeah, how it turned into 9k i don't know. not only that, it's just chapter one. don't think it's going more than 3 chapters, but yeah, it's kind of long.
something that i feel the need to add. i've been pretty careful about not posting in this particular thread much for the simple reason that it's a pretty emotional topic for me and i think that, at times, our logic goes right out the window and we simply react. i have real issues with the spat of hatred that the Trans community has been dealing with - a natural reaction, being human, is to lash back at anyone not give their 100% support to anyone labeling themselves as Trans, gender fluid, non-binary, etc. I don't think that furthers the debate much, honestly.
that said, i do have to wonder why people can't simply say 'hey, i don't get it, it doesn't apply to me, but i don't like the idea of anyone having to deal with hate or discrimination, and who am i to judge what they feel is hurtful and what isn't. also, think about it, when you're being assaulted on a daily basis with verbiage and actions (In 2023, so far, anti-trans bills continue to be introduced across the country seeking to block trans people from receiving basic healthcare, education, legal recognition, and the right to publicly exist. here's the count as of today: 549 bills in 49 states. 71 passed. 376 active. 102 failed) it's easy to see why people who ARE affected are very sensitive to anything that can be viewed as Anti-tran. i mean, just mention gun control and the gun folk get all whipped up and angry - how is that okay and this isn't?
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I'm not big on Fantasy, but I have read a few stories by some of my favourite authors who handled it well, so – I'll give it a try. I mean, if Sprite wrote it, how bad could it be, right?
you do know that, occasionally, i leave my good taste at home, right? lol
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OK, so maybe we're onto something here, folks, what with the sex, caffeine, and rock 'n roll:
"The orgasm heard around the world was reported by Magnus Fiennes, a composer and music producer who is the brother of Ralph Fiennes. After going to the Los Angeles Philharmonic in April, he tweeted about a woman sitting near him at Walt Disney Concert Hall who had a “loud and full body orgasm” during the second movement of Tchaikovsky’s Fifth."
– NYTimes, "Classical Crescendo," by Maureen Dowd, of all people, Saturday, May 20th, 2023.
in all fairness, i tried my best to be quiet...
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Ooo yup, I was just looking at comp entries. Kat's a regular in Popular Stories of categories, I believe. Goooo Kat! And I believe I saw you atop Microfiction last week too, Kis!
The writing force is strong with Rumpies!
btw, you're probably going to pass me in the fantasy category - can't think of anyone i'd rather be passed by :)
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And Bear zoomed to top in Popular Stories in Steampunk, Sprite in Fantasy and Sci-Fi, and Emma in Monster Sex. Mr Ape would probably be tops in Bisexual if he didn't have misfortune of April601 publishing there.
Yay Rumpies!
:worship:
April amazes me - i mean, how does she do it? crazy. and i did? ooo. used to be a sure thing for me. these days, not so much. i just don't put the work in, tbh. got too much else going on 
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Since cydia's free to not respond to my questions, it's not an interrogation. She's willingly participating in our conversation. I'm trying to understand why she's so upset about someone - Ms. Stock - speaking her mind.
I hope you're not saying that only certain people can ask questions in the TT.
no. just pointing out that you were accusing me of the same thing in another thread. feels a bit like hypocrisy now.
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I'm comfortable with how I see hate speech. I'd like to see what you think is an example of Ms. Stock's hate speech. You've said several times now that Ms. Stock was or is upfront in her hate speech, but you haven't provided an example yet. Why?
I thought the debating society extended the invitation. Are you saying Dr. Briggs did? What does Dr. Briggs have to do with this issue?
Just because you can't think of another reason for the debating society to extend the invitation doesn't mean there isn't one. For example, the society may think this is an important issue that should be discussed. Just because it is obvious to you that Ms. Stock doesn't have anything to contribute to the debate about transgenderism doesn't mean everyone else thinks it's obvious too. Clearly, some people don't share your opinion, but that doesn't mean they're wrong.
why do you insist upon interrogating her?
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Our world is WAY OVERDUE a COMMON DEFINITION OF HATE SPEECH.
here's a little help for you. me calling you entitled or dumb isn't hate speech. me calling you an entitled or dumb - insert ethnic, gender, etc. slur here - would be considered hate speech. if any of my "buddies" did something like that, i'd step in. if they just called you dumb, i'd let it go. get it? seriously, how many times does Dani have to explain it to you? simply disagreeing with you is kind of what the Tank is all about. it says it in the freaking description. https://www.lushstories.com/forum/the-think-tank/forum-rules
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Hey gang, if you're done your entry for here, there is a new comp on the whatever the hell colour that is site. Myths and monsters is the theme. Ape like.
great - right after i publish my Frankenstein story there. nice timing lol
Quote by KimmiBeGood
Oh my goodness, The Twilight Zone gave me nightmares as a child! Everything from the music, to that voice, to the stories. I vividly remember one where a man buries a man and woman (up to their heads) in the sand before tide comes in and drowns them. Then their seaweedy, ghostly bodies come back and bury him in the sand.
I'll be in my corner in the fetal position, gently rocking. 😨
cool - i am so writing a bunch of them, then, and dedicating them all to you ;) 
Quote by Buz
But cow farting is considered a major pollutant. There are a lot more people than cows on planet Earth. Humans fart a lot. And Republicans are especially full of gas. So, l think they should make the list of major pollutants.
Actually, humans are the number one polluter on the planet. Humans pollute through manufacturing and creating a modern environment, changing the earth's surface and atmosphere. As well, billions of humans naturally and unnaturally producing methane is polluting the atmosphere in a huge way.
the issue with cows, is they release methane gas. humans do not. generally.
