On the Cabo connection: adopting my approach of dropping the top and bottom 10% of the scores to calculate the average would mean that its 4.9 average would turn into a 5 with 197 votes and put it at nor near the top of the list on both schemes.
The current scheme results in a disconnect where the ranking of the top placed stories depends almost entirely on the number of not perfect scores which I think is bogus.
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Quote by overmykneenow
This isn't the Olympics! Do you seriously think people are voting politically?
I tell you what would be a make a fairer system for any all-time lists on this site: the number of times users have favourited a story. Count up the number of times people have looked at this user's stories and thought "that is so good I'm going to have a link to that on my profile" not just "I'll give it a 5, just like everything else I've scored today"
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Cabo Connection alone has 100 current registered users - that's enough for a Socialite button on its own
Of course, unfortunately, under this system your "poem" would have yet to register a score.
You are clearly obsessed with the idea that the only reason I would complain is to get my story higher. As a matter of fact the change I propose would mean that the story ranked lower because it would be behind all the other stories that were marked down in the same way. If you look at the all time list, I think you have to agree that flytoomuch's story with 141 votes, almost all 5s should probably rank ahead of a story that has straight 5s but only ten votes.
This is not an easy problem to address. The ranking should probably be done according to the confidence interval on the score. More votes means a tighter confidence interval. Dropping out the top and bottom 10% scores would be a simpler way to make the ranking more realistic.
Yes, I do think people vote politically because this has been raised in other threads and Nicola reported that they had seen evidence of it happening and tried to correct it. The same thing happens on Amazon, it happens on Nielsen too. Fox News ratings crashed when they went from filling in logs to actual measurements. Shows that attract a partisan audience get inflated ratings. Gaming rating systems is a well known effect.
I agree that measuring the number of positives is likely to be better though. I don't think 'average' score is a very useful metric anyway. The low scores are mostly useful to weed out the stories that get lots of them because they are incoherent. It is rather funny to see the scores on the stories, 50 votes for stories that have an average score of 3 and a little Bell curve.
Reporting the number of favorites would be one way to measure positives. But remember that once it is used as a measure, people are going to change the way they use them. But it would also be a good way to start a 'people who liked what you like also liked this' type feature.
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I know it isn't just me who has had a problem with this. It has been an ongoing complaint for ages. And being on the front page means way more views than being on the best of pages.
If you look through the top stories you will find that in almost all the categories what separates the stories at the very top of the list is not how many 5s they get but how many 3s and 4s. And if you look closer you will see that almost all of them have the same pattern. There will be a couple of stories with 20 or so straight 5s and then a bunch with 80 or 90 votes that have been knocked off by a tiny number of low scores.
Dropping the top and bottom scores would make the system a lot fairer as a story with 89 5s and one 4 is no longer going to be ranked behind a story with 14 5s which is just as silly. They do this in olympic competitions to stop the national country judges favoring their own team by giving their competitors low marks and their own high. It works pretty well and is easier to code than trying to track what people prefer.
If you look through the top stories you will find that in almost all the categories what separates the stories at the very top of the list is not how many 5s they get but how many 3s and 4s. And if you look closer you will see that almost all of them have the same pattern. There will be a couple of stories with 20 or so straight 5s and then a bunch with 80 or 90 votes that have been knocked off by a tiny number of low scores.
Dropping the top and bottom scores would make the system a lot fairer as a story with 89 5s and one 4 is no longer going to be ranked behind a story with 14 5s which is just as silly. They do this in olympic competitions to stop the national country judges favoring their own team by giving their competitors low marks and their own high. It works pretty well and is easier to code than trying to track what people prefer.
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I used to write them during a meal to recite at the end. Most of those were 8 verses or more.
I have written three in two days but there is one that has taken me 25 years I am only getting round to finish. And that is only 4 verses.
What I usually do is to write three or four verses and then stop and think about how to twist it. In 'to all the crap lovers I have cuckolded' the first draft had the speaker sounding too much like they were just boastful. I didn't like that, I wanted anger. So I waited a day then reworked the middle to add in the 'bloody fool' piece.
So its not the time writing, its the time rewriting.
The next one I did began as just an attack piece berating a guy for having a small dick. Which was funny and I could probably have kept that up for 12 verses. But It becomes monotonal. So when I came back and thought about what the mistress was saying I decided I could show that she actually had a very different complaint.
I have written three in two days but there is one that has taken me 25 years I am only getting round to finish. And that is only 4 verses.
What I usually do is to write three or four verses and then stop and think about how to twist it. In 'to all the crap lovers I have cuckolded' the first draft had the speaker sounding too much like they were just boastful. I didn't like that, I wanted anger. So I waited a day then reworked the middle to add in the 'bloody fool' piece.
So its not the time writing, its the time rewriting.
The next one I did began as just an attack piece berating a guy for having a small dick. Which was funny and I could probably have kept that up for 12 verses. But It becomes monotonal. So when I came back and thought about what the mistress was saying I decided I could show that she actually had a very different complaint.
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So earlier this morning my poem was at #8 on the all time list thanks to 14 straight 5s.
A few minutes later it was three pages in due to a 3 and a 4. Now this might be just random chance but the statistical likelihood of that pattern is about 0.5%. I think it is rather more likely that someone decided they wanted to push their own work up.
Which got me thinking about how stories should be scored. For example, should a story with 14 '5' scores beat one with 15 '5's and one '4'? How about 50 '5's and one 4?
What I want from a scoring system is to be able to use it to find the type of stories I like. I am not very interested in the relative popularity of the stories. That is possible but very involved to program.
One approach that might help block this type of gaming the system and make it more fair would be to do what they do in the olympics and drop the top x% and bottom x% of the score. If that was the top 10% and bottom 10% I think it would kill this type of abuse.
A few minutes later it was three pages in due to a 3 and a 4. Now this might be just random chance but the statistical likelihood of that pattern is about 0.5%. I think it is rather more likely that someone decided they wanted to push their own work up.
Which got me thinking about how stories should be scored. For example, should a story with 14 '5' scores beat one with 15 '5's and one '4'? How about 50 '5's and one 4?
What I want from a scoring system is to be able to use it to find the type of stories I like. I am not very interested in the relative popularity of the stories. That is possible but very involved to program.
One approach that might help block this type of gaming the system and make it more fair would be to do what they do in the olympics and drop the top x% and bottom x% of the score. If that was the top 10% and bottom 10% I think it would kill this type of abuse.
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So far four. Two if you don't include Nicola and Gav. I keep my identity here private because I don't want people coming here following me. I am very well known in my world.
The only reason I have revealed my identity here is because it was necessary at the time.
The only reason I have revealed my identity here is because it was necessary at the time.
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Looks like a scene from Shallow End of the Gene Pool
The mother might well be telling the truth, the kid has very fair skin and could well burn easily. But I would probably jump to the same conclusion the police did here. I can't see how they could get enough information to prosecute though.
What surprises me is that she could find a tanning salon that was 1 still running tanning beds and 2 would let her do that to herself. It is a personal injury lawsuit looking to happen. When she gets skin cancer her family could bring a lawsuit for negligence and they might well win.
If the underwriter for the tanning shop saw that clip they would probably be on the phone to cancel the policy in minutes. The number that will write those policies are already small which is why you can buy tanning beds on EBay for almost nothing these days.
What you can't get is the UV tubes. I have been trying to get hold of some for making PCBs, we use them to expose the resist. They are really hard to get hold of these days.
The mother might well be telling the truth, the kid has very fair skin and could well burn easily. But I would probably jump to the same conclusion the police did here. I can't see how they could get enough information to prosecute though.
What surprises me is that she could find a tanning salon that was 1 still running tanning beds and 2 would let her do that to herself. It is a personal injury lawsuit looking to happen. When she gets skin cancer her family could bring a lawsuit for negligence and they might well win.
If the underwriter for the tanning shop saw that clip they would probably be on the phone to cancel the policy in minutes. The number that will write those policies are already small which is why you can buy tanning beds on EBay for almost nothing these days.
What you can't get is the UV tubes. I have been trying to get hold of some for making PCBs, we use them to expose the resist. They are really hard to get hold of these days.
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I like the profiles that state "ABSOLUTELY NO MEN DO NOT ADD OR YOU'LL BE BLOCKED!!!!", but you can see their friends list and there are a couple guys. Kinda blows their entire bio out of the water and loses all credibility. If it had any to begin with. It's kinda like telling a car salesman, "we're only looking". Yea, they don't believe that shit either.
Given the way so many men creep here, I am not surprised. Back when I first started on lush it wasn't even possible to block the notifications. That was one of the suggestions I gave Gav for the site.
But I am on a couple of friends lists of folk that I know are genuine lesbians who don't usually add men. That is because they know I am not going to pester them with pictures of some other guy's penis (yeah you really think those are really theirs?).
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So we have all heard about these 'pickup artists' and the manipulator's way to get hooked up with a woman in a bar.
Now it might just be me but, the idea of negging a girl to get into her pants creeps me out to be honest. And I have enough friends with benefits round the country that I have never needed to try.
BUT! There seems to be a demand for these books and I don't see many people writing books on how to pick up girls that you do not consider to be street trash. And lets face it, if a woman has gone to a singles bar with the intention of getting laid it should really be possible for that to happen without the disrespect.
So ladies, what sort of approach did the guy use the last time you hooked up in a bar?
Information please, and extra context (were you looking for sex, an affair, FWB, whatever) if possible?
Now it might just be me but, the idea of negging a girl to get into her pants creeps me out to be honest. And I have enough friends with benefits round the country that I have never needed to try.
BUT! There seems to be a demand for these books and I don't see many people writing books on how to pick up girls that you do not consider to be street trash. And lets face it, if a woman has gone to a singles bar with the intention of getting laid it should really be possible for that to happen without the disrespect.
So ladies, what sort of approach did the guy use the last time you hooked up in a bar?
Information please, and extra context (were you looking for sex, an affair, FWB, whatever) if possible?
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What do you like in a sex chat? I am writing a guide and would like some input from women.
Do you like it when a guy goes straight to the sex or do you like to chat first?
Do you like to take the lead or leave it to the guy? What gets you hot? What turns you off?
Do you like it when a guy goes straight to the sex or do you like to chat first?
Do you like to take the lead or leave it to the guy? What gets you hot? What turns you off?
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I can't say I have ever really thought of going to a group sex situation other than to participate. Its like going to watch other people play golf.
I did once attend a party where I later discovered that there had been a full blown orgy going on upstairs and nobody had bothered to tell me. And that was an invite from a co-worker.
I have taken people I have dated to group sex, but those are not really what I consider dates.
I did once attend a party where I later discovered that there had been a full blown orgy going on upstairs and nobody had bothered to tell me. And that was an invite from a co-worker.
I have taken people I have dated to group sex, but those are not really what I consider dates.
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Go for it girl!
Just understand that there is almost no chance whatsoever that the relationship will go anywhere and that if he does decide to leave her for you it is because that is what he wanted all along and you are his escape route.
Oh and if he does dump her and marry you he will do the same to you in due course.
Big risk for you is you discover that you are a bunny boiler and never knew it.
Surveys show that men and women both screw around in large numbers. Our species is not really designed for monogamy and certainly not monogamy of the type promoted by the family values hypocrites.
Of the friends I have known that got divorced almost all broke up over the kids, either who spends their time, or over education or whatever. Adultery was a factor in one divorce but the adultery was a symptom and not the root cause.
It is really not so unusual for a woman to be OK with her guy sleeping around, if they are sure that it is just sleeping around. Plenty of women have no problem with their men using prostitutes precisely because they are not rivals.
It is rather different with men of course and there are lots of men who sleep around who would have a real jealousy problem sharing their wife. But our DNA is wired for hypocrisy there.
Just understand that there is almost no chance whatsoever that the relationship will go anywhere and that if he does decide to leave her for you it is because that is what he wanted all along and you are his escape route.
Oh and if he does dump her and marry you he will do the same to you in due course.
Big risk for you is you discover that you are a bunny boiler and never knew it.
Surveys show that men and women both screw around in large numbers. Our species is not really designed for monogamy and certainly not monogamy of the type promoted by the family values hypocrites.
Of the friends I have known that got divorced almost all broke up over the kids, either who spends their time, or over education or whatever. Adultery was a factor in one divorce but the adultery was a symptom and not the root cause.
It is really not so unusual for a woman to be OK with her guy sleeping around, if they are sure that it is just sleeping around. Plenty of women have no problem with their men using prostitutes precisely because they are not rivals.
It is rather different with men of course and there are lots of men who sleep around who would have a real jealousy problem sharing their wife. But our DNA is wired for hypocrisy there.
