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trinket
Convict
Quote by RavenStar


I agree with you. It's one thing to give voice to your emotions, to allow yourself to feel your grief and pain. It's another thing entirely to take up residence in that dark place.

Try smiling, you sad poets. Smile for sixty seconds straight, even if you don't feel like it. It just might brighten your day.



This literally made me smile. Still smiling and I'm not a happy camper right now. I can feel a poem brewing...
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It is unwise to express personal liking or disliking in such a way by a Mod because they stand for the official policy. And I think it is almost a crime to post anything against poetry when you have already posted 23 Love Poems (similar numbers might have been rejected). As a sensitive, caring and loving person, Rachel knows well that poetry (love, hate, erotic, sensual, sad or happy) is essentially integral to erotica (I'm confident to convince any Jury or Judge over this ) And I second all those who say "don't read what you don't like". Yes I agree that submissions for publications must be vetted as strictly as possible so that members get the best quality content.
Liz got her wine confiscated above somewhere, Rachel's alcohol should have been nabbed instead
DanielleX
Head Penguin
I am a little penguin,
I'm often rather cold,
it's one of those things you see,
when you live so near the poles

My Mum knitted a sweater,
for me to wear at night
But it's all rough and itchy,
cos it's just too darn tight

I am a little penguin,
my friends think I am nutty,
I put orange on my cornflakes
and treacle on my butties

I sit here in my igloo,
finding things to rhyme,
A lot harder than you think,
when you're pressed for time

I am a little penguin,
I often az a sad,
Don't think I being emo,
Or that my writing's bad

It's nearly time for brekkie,
Gonna catch me a kipper,
I'll wait by the ice pool,
and bash him with me flipper

I am a little penguin,
A-sitting in the snow,
Thank you for listening,
it's time for me to go...

A First Class Service Ch.5

A steamy lesbian three way
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Lurker
Quote by DanielleX
I am a little penguin,
I'm often rather cold,
it's one of those things you see,
when you live so near the poles

My Mum knitted a sweater,
for me to wear at night
But it's all rough and itchy,
cos it's just too darn tight

I am a little penguin,
my friends think I am nutty,
I put orange on my cornflakes
and treacle on my butties

I sit here in my igloo,
finding things to rhyme,
A lot harder than you think,
when you're pressed for time

I am a little penguin,
I often az a sad,
Don't think I being emo,
Or that my writing's bad

It's nearly time for brekkie,
Gonna catch me a kipper,
I'll wait by the ice pool,
and bash him with me flipper

I am a little penguin,
A-sitting in the snow,
Thank you for listening,
it's time for me to go...





Aww you little penguin, you're so sweetly sad.....
5 outta 5 for DanielleX
sprite
Her Royal Spriteness
Quote by Peri
It is unwise to express personal liking or disliking in such a way by a Mod because they stand for the official policy. And I think it is almost a crime to post anything against poetry when you have already posted 23 Love Poems


23 is actually about 1/100 of my actual out-put as far as pose and poetry goes - i only submit what fits the theme of the site. smile

You can’t truly call yourself peaceful unless you are capable of violence. If you’re not capable of violence, you’re not peaceful. You’re harmless.
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It is unwise to express personal liking or disliking in such a way by a Mod because they stand for the official policy. And I think it is almost a crime to post anything against poetry when you have already posted 23 Love Poems (similar numbers might have been rejected). As a sensitive, caring and loving person, Rachel knows well that poetry (love, hate, erotic, sensual, sad or happy) is essentially integral to erotica (I'm confident to convince any Jury or Judge over this ) And I second all those who say "don't read what you don't like". Yes I agree that submissions for publications must be vetted as strictly as possible so that members get the best quality content.
Liz got her wine confiscated above somewhere, Rachel's alcohol should have been nabbed instead
Quote by sprite

23 is actually about 1/100 of my actual out-put as far as pose and poetry goes - i only submit what fits the theme of the site. smile


Please do no take it personally. An "issue" raised here has been addressed as desired :)
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Edited Out

Steph
sprite
Her Royal Spriteness
Quote by Peri




Please do no take it personally. An "issue" raised here has been addressed as desired smile


Oh, no worries, i wasn't taking it personally, just sort of reinforcing my original post - honestly, i can emo with the best of them, i just choose to pick and choose wher that emo makes an appearance. :)

You can’t truly call yourself peaceful unless you are capable of violence. If you’re not capable of violence, you’re not peaceful. You’re harmless.
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Lurker
Quote by stephanie


WHAT GIVES???>????

My FRIEND, Mysteria27, (a writer I first met when I screamed at her, ASK HER...) has recently been LIMITED BY POLICY to submit ONLY three times a week... (This NOTWITHSTANDING our REGULAR submission rules...) So WHO'S POLICY IS THAT???

Mysteria27 is AMONG the most read posters here. A FUCK READ writer... (Among current posting rules...)

NOT MY THING BTW!!!

So NOW, it seems, we are LIMITING our most popular writers...


NOT WHAT I SIGNED ON FOR!!!!!!!!


(This SMELLS read like a HIGH-ASS IMAGINED BANNING???????)

CENSURE????????


HERE????????


Let's BURN BOOKS!!!!!!!!


FFS!

Steph


Mysteria27 is not only the most read poster here, but is also the kindest person one will ever meet.

Would the reason for this decision be based upon her association with me?

We cannot seek achievement for ourselves and forget about progress and prosperity... Our ambitions must be broad enough to include the aspirations and needs of others, for their sakes and for our own.

-- Cesar Chavez
Liz
Scarlet Seductress
Quote by tiddlywink
Would the reason for this decision be based upon her association with me?


No. That would be ridiculous.
Stormdog
Gentleman Stranger
Quote by tiddlywink


Mysteria27 is not only the most read poster here, but is also the kindest person one will ever meet.

Would the reason for this decision be based upon her association with me?

We cannot seek achievement for ourselves and forget about progress and prosperity... Our ambitions must be broad enough to include the aspirations and needs of others, for their sakes and for our own.

-- Cesar Chavez


Gotta agree with both Steph and tiddlywink - and this is not a conspiracy, as I know neither of them - but limiting such a prolific writer that turns out such fun, erotic, amusing, playful, and entertaining stories and poems, and who is also so tremendously popular just doesn't seem like an answer. I can understand that the writers of five or ten thousand word stories are frustrated to see their stories bumped off the homepage by a series of short, brief poems of a few hundred words, but with all the great minds here surely we can think of a better solution than limiting prolific writers!

And, no less important (maybe more) I also agree that Mysteria is one of the kindest, sweetest, and most honest and forthright people it's ever been my pleasure to meet!

Thanks, Steph and tw, for jumping in and bringing this up!


storm
LYFBUZ
Troublemaker
As the author (of questionable talent) of exactly 3 lame ass poems, at least one of which may fall in to the emo category I have no problem with Sprite's OP. The Mods do a great service for us all and that shouldn't preclude any of them from also having personal opinions. As for this thread congrats to Sprite for stirring such fiery passions....what say we weave that passion into our next story.... or dare I say it....next poem.
Guest
Lurker
Whatever is decided, it should be in LARGE PRINT. I myself don't have a problem with one or two a week...but make sure that applies to all. Poetry is much more difficult to write, but try telling that to someone who only reads and belches out accolades. Who decides what is and isn't love or erotica? I personally think a poem or story should go through at least three mods...and the writer should know who they are. There is some bias on Lush, it doesn't take a fool to see that. I have had my share of stinkers rejected and after calming down, I can see why. MOST mods are honorable and will assist...then there a few who don't know what is or what isn't.
ChuckEPoo
Chuckanator
Quote by Buz
No we don't accept 3 lined Haikus. If you want to write a traditional 3 line Haiku please post it in the Poet's Corner of The Forum. There is a thread for those there.

If you want to base a much longer poem on the syllable and meter pattern of a Haiku that is fine. Bear in mind it would need to be several stanzas long and therefore is not a traditional Haiku anymore. It also needs to be either romantic love or erotic. Quality counts if you want it to be accepted.



I'm so ignorant to the styles of poetry. I don't know what EMO poems are or the other mentioned here. Is this a three line poem you're refering to?
Your

Your eyes
Are like deep blue pools
Captivating and consuming
Drawing me in to you

Your smile
Glimmering with joy
Brillant as the sun.
Brightening my day

Your lips
So softly touch to mine
Stirring a fire from within
A kiss that is sealed in love

Your voice
Is like a concerto to my soul
A melody sung just for me
That streams into my heart

Your walk
Is gracefully swaying
And sensually alluring
Igniting my passion within

Your hair
Flowing like raven silk
Cascading your shoulders
Framing your supple breasts

Your hands
Are perfect in their form
Exquisitely elegant, caressing
And so sensual in their touch

Your arms
Pulling me tightly into you
The warmth of your embrace
Assures to me this is my place

Your soul
Tenderly reaches out to mine
Our story was written from above
And was consecrated in our love

I love you
Poppet
Cheeky Chick
I don't proclaim to be a poet. Because I'm not. I rather suck at them, I am not going to lie. But, when I was writing them, they did get a lot of traffic and seemed everyone could relate to them. However, I do have love and emo poems alike on my profile.

Though, I do have to agree with Sprite in a lot of ways. But I can also see the views of others when it comes to being told what we can and can not write.

A lot of people write poems to stay well known, to stay on top, to keep being one of the most popular people on the site. So they need to touch base with the raunchy, love and emo poems, so they don't start to grow stale. Maybe then, just maybe, you should put more effort into making better poems and stop worrying about staying on top of everyone else.

Just saying...

(This is NOT directed towards anyone. It is a simple statement)
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Lurker
I agree 100%. That is the 'key' to it all.
Guest
Lurker
Quote by Poppet
I don't proclaim to be a poet. Because I'm not. I rather suck at them, I am not going to lie. But, when I was writing them, they did get a lot of traffic and seemed everyone could relate to them. However, I do have love and emo poems alike on my profile.

Though, I do have to agree with Sprite in a lot of ways. But I can also see the views of others when it comes to being told what we can and can not write.

A lot of people write poems to stay well known, to stay on top, to keep being one of the most popular people on the site. So they need to touch base with the raunchy, love and emo poems, so they don't start to grow stale. Maybe then, just maybe, you should put more effort into making better poems and stop worrying about staying on top of everyone else.

Just saying...

(This is NOT directed towards anyone. It is a simple statement)


To stay well known? Really? That's news to me.

I myself am getting burned out on poems, except haikus.

Reading or writing poems.

I just unfollowed some authors as well.

I might be burnt out on love....lmao.

And all it entails.

Nothing personal.
Buz
The Linebacker
A Haiku is a traditional Japanese poem style that is only 17 syllables long. It is written in three lines. The first line is 5 syllables, the second line is 7 syllables and the third line is 5 syllables. So it is a very short poem of only 3 lines. It has become popular in English.

Being that it is so short, it is not allowed as a submitted poem here on Lush. We have a thread here in the Poet's Corner where members can post their Haikus.

https://www.lushstories.com/forum/yaf_postst7391_HaikuLushly-speaking.aspx

You can see samples of Haiku poems at the above link. You are invited to post Haikus there if you wish.
trinket
Convict
We all know, or should know it's the Mod Squad who make the big and little decisions for this site. Do they always ask for members opinions? No, They dont. They are never going to please everyone with their decisions. Trust me, I know. Look around you. This is the best site of it's kind. It was started from absolutely nothing and it doesn't look like too bad of a site from where I'm sitting so somebody has been doing something right.

I didn't like HRH's OP one little bit but I kept my mouth shut because I know myself I can get quite... Ummm... Passionate about some things. I DO believe there is a place for love poems, happy or sad or funny, on an erotica writing site. IMHO these categories are all part of the different stages of a relationship and the emotions associated with them. If lush were to can that category completely I would be SO pissed. I also know the mods would have Discussed the issue and it would not have been decided upon because a mod had a personal issue with one writer. I don't believe for a split second that a personal issue is behind this decision. Why would it be?

Having said that, I am on NO way saying Mysteria or anyone here is a good writer or a bad writer. That's not for ME to decide. Nicola has chosen people who she thinks would be the best people for that job. People who know proper grammar, punctuation and a decent story or poem from a not so good one. Steph mentioned judging stories by personal opinion. Isn't that their job to do that? When you were a mod didn't you decide what was and wasn't considered to be a good story? I don't know what their reasons are for putting this restriction in place, but I don't believe for a split second it is because of personal opinion of Mysteria's character. Not everyone is going to like everyone else EVER but I do know that if a mod has a personal issue with a member the matter is passed onto other mods to deal with.

Instead of assuming the worst of the mods' decision, why not try to look at it from both sides of the fence? IF it was my writing being restricted I would ask why instead of assuming it's because of a personal issue someone has. These decisions aren't made by ONE mod. I have been told decisions for absolutely everything are voted on. Bans, suspensions, , changes to guidelines etc. If I didn't like it I would go somewhere else. Mysteria is choosing to stay and upload some of her stories here so although I haven't asked her, in my opinion things aren't looking so bad here after all.

I have ranted on the forums before about decisions the mods have made that I thought were unfair or stupid. It doesn't produce any result, it only makes yourself madder and the mods cranky. None of us like cranky mods!

I'm not judging anyone about anything. From where I'm standing the mods are copping a very savage attack over a decision THEY made because they think it's the right one.

Not everyone likes everyone else's writing. Does that mean they think ALL of those writers are bad writers? No. It means they don't like that particular category. Mysteria and I talked about this one day and I was honest and told her I didn't like all of her writing and she told me the same thing. Were either of us saying it to hurt the other? No we weren't. Does everyone like every bit of writing I ever wrote? No. Doesn't mean they don't like me as a person though.

Anyone here who knows me well knows I have had my moments with some of the mods over various issues. I haven't always championed them. I don't like all of them either. That doesn't mean I think every decision they make FOR me is a personal vendetta.
trinket
Convict
Quote by Buz
A Haiku is a traditional Japanese poem style that is only 17 syllables long. It is written in three lines. The first line is 5 syllables, the second line is 7 syllables and the third line is 5 syllables. So it is a very short poem of only 3 lines. It has become popular in English.

Being that it is so short, it is not allowed as a submitted poem here on Lush. We have a thread here in the Poet's Corner where members can post their Haikus.

https://www.lushstories.com/forum/yaf_postst7391_HaikuLushly-speaking.aspx

You can see samples of Haiku poems at the above link. You are invited to post Haikus there if you wish.


Buz, I have seen quite a few poems accepted on lush that were made up of several haiku.
Buz
The Linebacker
Quote by trinket


Buz, I have seen quite a few poems accepted on lush that were made up of several haiku.


I've mentioned that before. A traditional Haiku is only 3 lines. That is it. If its longer than that then its not a traditional Haiku.

If you write a poem based on the 3 lined meter style of a Haiku with multiple stanzas, as if it is several Haikus, making up a longer poem, then its just a longer poem based on that metered format. But do make it long enough to be worthy of submitting. Front page space is precious and its not fair to people who spend a lot of time and effort creating stories and other kinds of poems to be bounced off by something very short that took 5 minutes to do.

Plus, I would like to state for everyone to know, there is no kind of vendetta going on against any member on Lush. Our verification queue has been bombarded with submissions. We're desperately trying to get your stories verified. The current wait time may be much longer than any of you are used to. If we ask any of you to please be patient or to temporarily slow down any submissions, it is NOT a personal attack, insult or anything negative at all. Please don't misconstrue things. We just need some breathing room to get the job done. We are all just members like all of you and we have jobs and families to try and spend time with. When we get this busy and submissions bombard us, we have no time at all to write any of our own stories or poems. We're just frantically verifying and trying to catch up. This like anything else will pass. Please be patient.
Magical_felix
Wild at Heart
Quote by trinket


Mysteria and I talked about this one day and I was honest and told her I didn't like all of her writing and she told me the same thing. Does everyone like every bit of writing I ever wrote? No.


For the record, I don't like your writing either. Especially the poems.
trinket
Convict
Quote by Buz


I've mentioned that before. A traditional Haiku is only 3 lines. That is it. If its longer than that then its not a traditional Haiku.

If you write a poem based on the 3 lined meter style of a Haiku with multiple stanzas, as if it is several Haikus, making up a longer poem, then its just a longer poem based on that metered format. But do make it long enough to be worthy of submitting. Front page space is precious and its not fair to people who spend a lot of time and effort creating stories and other kinds of poems to be bounced off by something very short that took 5 minutes to do.
.


Sorry. My mistake. ?
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Quote by adagio_sabadicus
Who decides what is and isn't love or erotica? I personally think a poem or story should go through at least three mods...and the writer should know who they are. There is some bias on Lush, it doesn't take a fool to see that.


Wow this thread taking shocking twists and turns....
May I suggest this thread be closed and deleted because we're not going to end up anywhere and more and more members would jump in to the action..... And as long as a member is a mod, they may not be allowed to express their personal opinion in such a way, rather in their tenure as a mod, they should only act as the custodian of the trust of Lush owners or the official policy.... smile
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Lurker
Quote by Peri


Wow this thread taking shocking twists and turns....
May I suggest this thread be closed and deleted because we're not going to end up anywhere and more and more members would jump in to the action..... And as long as a member is a mod, they may not be allowed to express their personal opinion in such a way, rather in their tenure as a mod, they should only act as the custodian of the trust of Lush owners or the official policy.... smile


excuse me, but why locked and deleted? just because in your mind they aren't going nowhere, that doesn't mean that people aren't allowed to say what they think.

that being said, i want to point out that mods do have way too much work to be going through one poem 3 times, it is ridiculous. plus, if some think that was treated unfair should act on it privately and immediately as it happens, not through the forum. it shows just lack of respect and good manners.
Guest
Lurker
Quote by stephanie


WHAT GIVES???>????

My FRIEND, Mysteria27, (a writer I first met when I screamed at her, ASK HER...) has recently been LIMITED BY POLICY to submit ONLY three times a week... (This NOTWITHSTANDING our REGULAR submission rules...) So WHO'S POLICY IS THAT???

Mysteria27 is AMONG the most read posters here. A FUCK READ writer... (Among current posting rules...)

NOT MY THING BTW!!!

So NOW, it seems, we are LIMITING our most popular writers...


NOT WHAT I SIGNED ON FOR!!!!!!!!


(This SMELLS read like a HIGH-ASS IMAGINED BANNING???????)

CENSURE????????


HERE????????


Let's BURN BOOKS!!!!!!!!


FFS!

Steph


I remember one thread where was discussed if it would be a good idea to make official site rule that writers can post once per week. I personally support that idea.

This is private free site and owner holds the rights to make the rules without any democratic debates. If Nicola wants to eliminate in any way poetry corner, it is her right to do so. Do I agree with it, no, but only because poetry was and is huge part of this site and contributes a lot to it. People who read and write poetry joined just because of it and now that site is in full blossom and poetry corner is not needed anymore it can be put aside, shows different side of human nature. Will I judge it, probably won't but I dislike that kind of behavior.
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Lurker
Quote by She


excuse me, but why locked and deleted? just because in your mind they aren't going nowhere, that doesn't mean that people aren't allowed to say what they think.

that being said, i want to point out that mods do have way too much work to be going through one poem 3 times, it is ridiculous. plus, if some think that was treated unfair should act on it privately and immediately as it happens, not through the forum. it shows just lack of respect and good manners.


Had you taken some water before saying that, your views might have been different. But your outburst warrants to show you some of the highlights of what has been said heresmile

~ Expression of disliking of downer poems or Emo Poems by a mod who vet and verify the same stories submitted by the members.
~ Expression of disliking of poems by a guy who blamed mods for poems taking over Lush. Surprisingly, he showed year-wise stats to support his allegation but refrained to tell how he gathered such stats.
~ Arguments over accepting or not accepting haikus.
~ Then a rebuttal, "if people don't like something they do not have to read it"
~ Another rebuttal, What's UP ON POST is YOUR DECISION, NOT OURS...If you don't like it, bounce it. If it's UP and you don't like it don't read it...
~ Then shockingly, Sprite said, "if it was in my power, I'd eliminate the poetry category completely"
~ Another rebuttal to Sprite, "you CANNOT say, Don't Write Sad Stuff 'Cos That Upsets Me Personally..."
~ Another view, " if we are allowed only to post what are basically optimistic poems, that is to neglect the whole are of unrequited love."
~ And then this, "Don't tell US what we TRY to post!!! (THIS IS A WEBSITE!!!!!! ARE YOU NUTS???) WE TRY TO POST WHAT WE WRITE WITH CONFIDENCE ENOUGH TO POST??? FOR FUCK SAKE??? YOU CHOOSE what GOES UP... NOT OUR DEAL. If it's HERE YOU approved it!!!
~ And then Sprite said, "Well... that got completely blown out of context" and "seriously, i am starting to wish i never said anything."
~ And i wrote, "It is unwise to express personal liking or disliking in such a way by a Mod because they stand for the official policy" :)
~ Then another shock, "My FRIEND, Mysteria27, has recently been LIMITED BY POLICY to submit ONLY three times a week... (This NOTWITHSTANDING our REGULAR submission rules...) So WHO'S POLICY IS THAT??? "
~ And, There is some bias on Lush, it doesn't take a fool to see that. "
~ And topping was, calling the mods as Mod Squad (Moderator's Squadron)!

I don't think all this is of any use, neither it is amusement nor knowledge. Actually it is embarrassing for mods which I didn't like. So I suggested that mods may not be allowed to express personal opinions as long as they are mods.

Having said that, if you feel happy with what is above, be happy.... I've no worries :)
sprite
Her Royal Spriteness
Quote by Magical_felix


For the record, I don't like your writing either. Especially the poems.


Thank you for making an effort to add to the conversation.

For the record, btw, Trink, I like your writing. Especially the poems.

You can’t truly call yourself peaceful unless you are capable of violence. If you’re not capable of violence, you’re not peaceful. You’re harmless.