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Dancing_Doll
Over 90 days ago
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Technically, anything that is penetrating an orifice is supposed to be sex, but I tend to lump 'oral' as 'fooling around'... same as I would tag mutual masturbation as more along the lines of foreplay. It's wrong to define it as such, but I tend to more classify vaginal/anal as sex. This doesn't make sense though, because then what is lesbian sex? (provided it remains just oral).

I think women tend to see oral as just 'foreplay' in order to keep their sex-partners numbers lower. And maybe some people do it to avoid feeling like they've cheated if they are in a scenario where they are just giving someone a blow-job. Maybe it alleviates some of the guilt.

For me, if I'm having oral with someone, 95% of the time I have also gone on to have vaginal/anal sex, so it doesn't make as much of a difference to me.
Thank you for sharing your artwork Sprite! The rest of the world needs to know about how talented you are! Obviously you know I'm more than a little awed and in love with the pic you drew of me!

You are a true 'artiste' in every sense of the word, and I'm inspired by the way you capture reality and transform it into something so compelling!

Hopefully we get to see more from you soon!
Xuani, you might also enjoy this duet with Cyndi Lauper and Sarah McLachlan... they do a beautiful cover of Time After Time.


This song has special meaning to me. I listen to it once a year on a certain painful anniversary and it absolutely wrecks me without fail. I try to avoid listening to it during the rest of the year, but was feeling a little emotionally masochistic this weekend, and decided to indulge...


In an airplane coming back from vacation, sitting in my seat, with my legs crossed, using kegal muscles and dirty vacation-sex thoughts.

I'm one of those girls that can get off using no hands, so it really opens up the possibilities of where/when I can orgasm if the mood strikes. I've also done it in classrooms during boring lectures. I have it down to an art... nobody ever knows.
You Are Wild Sexy
You are sexy because you are always up for a fun fling.
You're sexually open and assertive. You know what you want, and you're going to get it.

You are a very physically attractive person. You take care of your body.
You are attracted to other gorgeous people - and you don't care if that's shallow.

You don't have many sexual hang ups or issues. You simply enjoy sex.
You are adventurous and open to new experiences. You experiment freely.

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Heh, DD I love ya babe...but 10,000 out of 7 billion is not a commonality.


Well it's a sample population that's being extrapolated to make a generalization. And I know you hate generalizations.
It's impossible to know what every single person on the planet thinks about this subject (half the time I don't think we feel comfortable admitting these things to ourselves either), but I think the study was to show that these trends cross cultural barriers.

It's also a theory that I've witnessed in my own social circles as well. Maybe I am hanging with the wrong crowds (correction: I *know* I'm hanging with the wrong crowds, but I digress). I have three close female friends that have openly told me "well, you know (insert husband's name) isn't good looking or what I imagined myself with, but with him I have security and I don't have to work anymore". I see these kinds of couples all the time - the high status man teamed up with the beautiful unambitious woman. I know several "high status" guys that have chosen to marry ex-models who are swinging on a continuum towards being 'emotionally high maintenance and crazy', but they look great on their arm. For a high status guy, he will want a 'status symbol' on his arm and that's when I agree - the visual comes into play. But I think the visual is more often a priority than what the woman does for a living, or how successful she is.

Anyway, that's definitely a trend I see as being extremely common where I live, and when I walk around in my neighbourhood, and with *some* of my friends. But then again, that doesn't represent everyone's human experience. Personally I've never been attracted to men because of their wealth-status, but the social-alpha-male is just another version of a guy that leads the pack in one way or another. I don't think it's necessarily always about money. Women tend to like "successful" men (where success = leadership, not bankroll). Sorry for the generalization, but it's just my opinion, based on my own 'field experience'.

As Sprite said, I'm sure both genders would love to find a partner with both. It's just that in reality, we sometimes have to let one slide more than the other, and this is where the tendencies sometimes differ between men and women.
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I am not familiar with that being commonly stated anywhere, except perhaps in someone else's mind.


It looks like it's been rather commonly stated in many people's minds... at the very least in the minds of 10,000 people in 37 countries, and on six different continents.



Evolutionary psychologists like Dr. David Buss believe that present-day mate selection behaviors were founded in the Stone Age. Buss' recent survey of over 10,000 people in 37 countries, on six continents, reports that men consistently prize physical attraction and youth in their potential mates, while women value ambition, status, and financial resources.

In evolutionary terms, men seek out sexually desirable females whose youthful features indicate good health and the ability to bear children, while women look for mates with abundant enough resources to provide for their children.

http://ca.askmen.com/dating/curtsmith_100/



I'm actually surprised that people are needing to be so PC by claiming this doesn't exist? By agreeing that it's a trend, doesn't mean that you, yourself subscribe to it as being the way it *should* be, or even that it's relevant to your own personal situation.

I think that the theory can be seen on a more exaggerated level within certain social circles (ie. the idea of the 'trophy wife' or 'gold-digger', for example, are both cultural example of this)... but even in circles where affluence is not a factor, women will tend to be more attracted to the "alpha" male. She may not get him, of course, but isn't that what grabs our attention first? How many Hollywood dramatic or romantic films feature a beta-male as the leading character? Not many. It's because women will swoon more for the guy with status... whether that 'status' character is the rich guy (eg. Edward Lewis in Pretty Woman) or the heroic guy (eg. William Wallace in Braveheart)... In the rest of life, the pro-athletes, and the lead singers in the band are always going to get more attention from women because of their implied status.

I probably don't really have to argue whether women are valued for their looks (initially!)... I think that's a given. Just look here at Lush at the sexy pics threads featuring perfect ass, breasts, legs, and various other female body parts. Those pics tend to be rather female-pic dominated. And I haven't seen any threads featuring 'women with amazing personalities' or 'women in power'.

Neither looks or status determine whether a "relationship" would work, and I definitely don't think this is the trump card in every situation, but as a general trend in terms of initial attraction, I think the theory is pretty common throughout *most* of our society.
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Oh Lady X and Dancing Doll, you both knew that that I care for each of you and admire you both as smart woman.!!!

But are we not back to the same question all over again.

Love and Sex?

Can we not get beyond the idea than they are one in the same. They are not, if we extracate procreation.

I have said this before this is the 21st Century and when are we going to make the distiction, between Love and Sex?


I think the problem with this situation is that (correct me if I'm wrong Xuani), they are not in an open relationship. If they are both on the same page with their expectations and boundaries for their relationship, then it removes the deception element, and it can work!

Right you are Whitney, certainly love and sex can be separated. The real problem is when deception occurs, and one person is purposely left in the dark. That's when I see it as cheating.... and a problem for their relationship.
I only write when I'm inspired.

I try not to force the writing when I'm not feeling it... every time I do, I find that my writing is subpar.

I don't mind taking mini-breaks in between stories.

I think it's good to clear the mind before starting something fresh.

I know many people write multiple stories at one time. I've only ever concentrated on one at a time. I admire those that can successfully juggle ideas. I hope to find the skill level to be able to do that sometime.
I think that erotica poses a different kind of challenge to a writer in that there is a choice between making it a closed-tale with definite characters and background/imagery or something more open-concept that allows the reader to "live the fantasy" by imagining that they are the main character, or creating the setting as their own imagination prefers. I prefer stories that keep things a little more open-ended with both.

For me, it's less about what the character looks like, or the location they are standing in, but more how they are feeling and interpreting the situation. A reader can probably relate to the emotional life of your characters before they can relate to the physicality of them.

Between the two you mention (setting vs character development), I much prefer stories that concentrate on bringing the characters to life. I want to understand their motives, dialogue style, and hopefully that gives a sense of realism to the dynamics of the story line.

As far as settings go, I want the basics to set the scene, but I don't want endless details. My mind tends to drift when I read too much about how a room looks, or scenery that is overly detailed (especially in a short story). I'm much more interested in what the people in the room are doing/thinking/feeling.
I was in the exact same situation...

I was friends with the couple, but definitely much closer to my girlfriend, so my loyalties remained with her.

It's a hard situation to be in. Nobody wants to be the "fool" where everyone but you knows that your significant other is cheating on you. I actually was that fool once, and I was angry as hell that my so called "friends" didn't warn me about it. The thing was it was the guys that knew about it, and their loyalties remained tied to my ex-bf... So I get it now. It's a terrible place to be in, but I think it's widely understood that you will stand by your closest friend in these situations, at the expense of their significant other.

Going back to my girlfriend who cheated prior to her marriage (and after the wedding as well actually), I am there for her. I make no secret of the fact that I don't condone her behaviour, but she has shared her reasons for it lately, and to be honest... I can "somewhat" see her rationale for why she strays. Either way, it's her marriage and her life. My job as the friend is to stand by her, support her to a certain degree, and then help her pick up the pieces if it ever comes to that.

As well... you don't know the dynamics of their relationship. Maybe they have an open relationship, or the kind of understanding that sometimes things "might happen" but you just don't talk about it or acknowledge it openly. If she thinks the chances of the marriage going through are strong, no matter if the cheating came to light or not, then my advice would be to let them sort it out on their own. Maybe this girl will turn things around after she takes her final vows (unlikely, but hey, I'm feeling optimistic today!). I think your friend should vocalize her feelings about the cheating to her friend and explain how uncomfortable she feels about the situation she's been placed in. But in the end, my feeling is that it's their relationship/marriage, and I've seen disasters occur when someone is the 'bearer of the bad news', and then the couple works through it and then ostracizes that friend completely because of the negative reminders.

Brutal situation though... and yeah... not a good sign if she's cheating just before they are about to tie the knot. That whole situation ranks in the top three of my all-time worst life nightmares... I would hate to be in the white dress about to marry a cheating asshole while our friends snickered because they all knew what a jerk he was, and I was the one being kept in the dark...
I just found some info to help clarify the difference between an emotional affair versus just a normal friendship.

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When you begin to share intimate or hurtful details of your relationship with one particular friend of the opposite sex, you are in the beginning stages of an emotional affair. Every relationship has ups and downs, but by relaying personal information on your significant other you are also betraying his or her trust. You spend more energy longing for your friend than you do your partner. When you're with your partner, you look forward to when you can get back to spending time with your friend. You tend to hide information on your friendship from your partner. You email or call each other in secret, and when asked how you two spent your time you have a tendency to lie. Something about your friendship bothers your partner, and when he or she asks you about it you get uncomfortable or defensive. You tend to take extra care with your appearance when knowing you'll be spending time with your friend that day. You dream and fantasize about your friend, not your significant other. You are jealous when your friend goes on a date. You find yourself hoping your friend will not find love and instead spend time with you.

http://dating-advice.suite101.com/article.cfm/friendship_vs_emotional_affair


I asked the question because I was talking with friends the other day about the differences between the two or whether one is worse than the other (a friend of mine has a hubby currently involved in Scenario B with a coworker). I thought there might be some interesting differences between the genders on how this question is answered. Women tend to be more threatened by an emotional transgression, and men seem to clearly see the divide, with "sex" being the ultimate betrayal.

For me personally, I'd be more upset at Scenario B. A physical urge that gets satisfied and then forgotten about until the next time just isn't as upsetting as knowing someone else is in your partner's head 24/7.
Which scenario would bother you more and why?
Could you forgive one but not the other?


Scenario A. You find out that your significant other is having a physical affair. They meet this "other" person approximately twice a month on their lunch hour or just after work to have sex. They don't have much in common, other than enjoying each other sexually. They don't even know much about each other's lives, and typically only communicate in order to set up the next rendezvous. Your significant other is hiding this from you at the time you find out what's going on.

Scenario B. You find out that your significant other is having an emotional affair. While they haven't actually had sex with this person, they talk regularly (by phone, email, online chat etc), and they enjoy hanging out together as often as they can. Your significant other shares a deep emotional connection with this person, and they talk about things that they might not even share with you. Your significant other is hiding this from you at the time you find out what's going on.
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recently - I seem to have stumbled on 2 similar accounts by a couple ... 2 for her, 2 for him ... of course, I may be incorrect. They seem to be married to each other ... one set devoted to each other, and the other set the same. Maybe it's role playing?? I just can't figure out why someone feels they need to have 2 accounts - as both seem to echo the other set ....

weird

( stepping around very carefully - could be a messy situation )

Van


If it is who I am thinking off... she had at least 4 accounts set up, not sure about him.... but as you said... it could be role playing as she did state on one of his profiles that 4 girls were after him.


oh thank god!! here I was thinking I was nuts or something .... so I wonder why, if it is indeed correctly assumed, that it continues ......

questions that make you go ...




It can be a slippery slope... first you break one rule, and then you start... breaking others...
People that are actually too stupid to successfully carry out the idiocy of their own strategies.

If you're smart, it really shouldn't be this obvious.


Hail to the Paintbrush!!

Congrats!! :


PS. You're right Nicola.. that artwork is going to give me nightmares now!
I'll admit I have enjoyed some good old fashioned brain-rot from reality-tv. It's all escapism, and it's easy background noise if you're doing something else. You take a quick glance at the TV, get your laugh, congratulate yourself that your life is not as fucked up as theirs, and then continue doing whatever you were doing.

I'll watch Jersey Shore if it's on, but I wouldn't make time out of my day to make sure I catch each episode. I love the comedic entertainment... Even in that clip WMM, you can't help but stare (car-crash-style) at the idiocy... and hey... I thought I caught a glimpse of The_Driver in the background... or at least guys that favour those spiky haircuts to make them look taller...

Most people know that I love a bit of drama-rama every now and then, so reality-tv is fair game in my world.

It's all I can do to get over the fact that The Hills is gone forever... How will we know what happens to Heidi and Spencer now?!
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I realize I'm new to the site, thus have a tiny voice if any at all, but it strikes me as odd that you can't remove someone from your friend list only block them. I'd like to parse down my friend list to only those people who I interact with and still have the option of once again adding the others once I get to know them better.


Hi Colton...

Try going to "Account", and then "Settings" and then "Friends". If you hover over the friend you want to delete, you'll see a drop down menu that will appear with the option to delete them.

It's a bit of a process though if you're deleting a lot of people at the same time. I agree it would be great to just have a box that we can check off for multiple friends and then delete all at once (similar to selecting/deleting emails). Or to make the process for deleting more user friendly. It took me a while to figure out how to do this myself... lol

Welcome to the site!
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Perhaps take out Poems from those rankings entirely.


I agree. I think that's a great idea. I also notice that poems are often over-represented in the "Top Story Picks" each month as well.
I think that a lot of people are attracted to reading stories from the opposite sex's point of view. After all, it's the one thing I know that I will never get to experience when it comes to sex. I'll never know what it's like to have a dick and fuck a woman (strap-on capabilities aside, it's just not the same). I like to know what a man experiences, or how he feels or the way he describes a sex act... not to mention that you can learn some interesting tips as to what the opposite sex enjoys and/or fantasizes about most, and things you might want to try or incorporate into your own sex life. But that's just on a pure interest level.

I'm not sure what the gender stats are in terms of how many men vs women actually read erotica, but if it's a more male-dominated readership, then certainly I can see how female writers will tend to get more attention in general. I'd be curious to see the gender ratio differences for readers in each category... I think that would be interesting!

I do think that women may tend to get more "sympathy scores", even if the story is subpar... especially from male readers. I think it's just a built-in tendency to not want to be too 'harsh' with criticism with female writers. It's just my opinion though. I tend to not like to give bad scores to either gender, so if I read a story that I don't like, I'm more inclined just to bypass the scoring altogether - which is probably a bad thing. Assumably we all want the feedback, but I just hate delivering a 'bomb-score' on something (I think that's the girl in me, not wanting to hurt feelings... lol), so I just tend to avoid it.

In terms of content of the stories, yes, there is definitely a difference in terms of what a woman can get away with and have be considered still erotic. I find this is particularly the case with the Reluctance or non-consent categories. A story told from a female's perspective is often judged less harshly, especially if she is the one being dominated. It's just seen as an authentic female fantasy. A male writer, using the same level of "dirty details" in the story may be judged more because of the implied question... "is the female character really enjoying it, or is this writer using this story as an opportunity to unleash his inclinations towards force and sexual coercion?" It often makes me wonder how the same story would do in ratings/feedback if it were posted for half the readers as a female writer, and the other half as a male. On the other hand, in terms of my own feedback for the reluctance stories I've written, I've actually found that if anyone is being critical of the content, it has always been a male reader. I think that whole category appeals more to female readers in general, who have the legitimate fantasy. Whereas men tend to struggle a bit more with what society instills in them as being inappropriate or wrong when it comes to "convincing" a "reluctant" sex partner... regardless of the fact that it's just part of a sexual fantasy.
I'm naked because... I'm writing a dirty story and I need easy access to indulge my 'inspirations'...
Whoever asked the other person out for drinks should pay for the bill on the first date.

If you continue dating from there, I'm more in favour of one person picking up the bill one time, and the other person picking it up the next time, rather than getting separate cheques or trying to sort out going 'dutch'. It always feels kind of cheap and embarrassing trying to split a bill and/or tally how much each person owes. Even with close girlfriends, one person will buy a round one time, and the other person will buy the next round.

As far as how much a guy should be paying versus a woman... I think it's somewhat contingent on how much money a person makes, in my opinion. If you are a waitress and you're dating an executive banker, then he should pick up the bill a lot more often.

As well, if one of you has invited the person to a specific "special restaurant" or "event", then that person should pay.

Regardless of who I'm dating I will always pick up the tab for something quite early on. Even if you don't have a lot of cash, you can make him dinner, buy breakfast, or lunch, or pick up a round of drinks. I just think it's the classy thing to do.
My rule is... if I'm not turned on by own story, then nobody else is going to be either. I'm always extremely aroused while writing and will stop now and then to enjoy, reflect and play...

Sometimes taking that kind of break will take the fantasy further and inspire more details! Of course, that might be why it takes me so long to write a story through to the end!

My characters are always based on people I know from my own life, either psychologically or physically (or sometimes both). I feel like it helps create more authenticity. So far, my main female protagonist has always been based on myself. I like to put myself into my fantasies, and then add characters and manipulate them like puppets on an erotic stage! It's part of the fun of writing, in my opinion... that little thrill of control. It definitely adds to my own arousal... and hopefully for my readers as well.