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Dancing_Doll
Over 90 days ago
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Traditional monogamy is a commitment (both emotionally and sexually) to another person, exclusive to anyone else.

Now, is that a natural state for most human beings? No.

In the animal world, strict monogamy is almost unheard of... even pair-bonded animals have flings on the side. And there are only 3-5% of mammals who 'pair bond' at all.

And yes, I know we are not animals (most of us anyways).

But I don't understand why many people cannot get over the difference between love and sex. Yes, sex is an intimate act, but there are sexual urges and desire for variety that have nothing to do with a real emotional and psychological connection that you can have with one person that supersedes all others (ie. love).

Like LadyX, I don't know a lot of couples that are exceptionally happy when they are confined by the limitations of traditional monogamy. At least not after 2 years of the same thing. Eventually sexual boredom does set in for most couples, unless they venture outside the box.

I know a lot of cheaters (more than monogamous types to be honest), and I'm not a proponent of deception... after all, how can you have that authentic emotional connection with someone if you're constantly sneaking around?

My ideal kind of relationship is non-traditional monogamy where you have the emotional/psychological commitment to one person, but you are both free to experiment in a kind of open sexual relationship (where you create your own rules as a couple beforehand). Once you remove the "deceptive" element of sex outside your marriage/relationship, then it just becomes an extension of your connection to each other. And I think that can make for a healthy and realistic long-term relationship! We just have to get beyond the traditional confines of what our society says is the ideal promise to be 'faithful' and 'forsaking all others'. What that really amounts to for most couples is setting yourself up for total failure.

For those who say "I have never cheated"... I think you just haven't had the "right" opportunity. If given the opportunity to be with someone you were sexually attracted to and no chance of getting caught, how many could honestly say they would never do it. And maybe not now if you're in the beginnings of a new, thrilling, "idealistic" relationship... but never say never.

I do think women tend to be more inclined to "traditional monogamy" than men, but we also have all that indoctrination and brainwashing early on from fairytales, white-picket fences, and general social messaging. But those type of women are more likely to cheat for the emotional/psychological experience, rather than for the sexual.

I just think society needs to "reprogram" the whole concept of monogamy... Maybe that would help keep the divorce rate down, and create longer lasting (and happier and more fulfilling) relationships!
No, oral sex skills alone are not going to convince me.

If I'm not at least somewhat attracted to him, I'm not interested.

Yeah, I could probably just keep my eyes closed and imagine it was someone else, but that's pretty much what I do with my vibrators and sex-toys now.

For me, half the pleasure is in seeing someone that you're already hot for, in between your thighs, tonguing you into ecstasy.
They must have been on some serious drugs when they came up for the concept of this video... I kinda like it! Cool song too...

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Its also relatively inexpensive, costing about 2-10 bucks a pill depending on where you get it.


I haven't done this in over a decade, but I remember spending $25 per pill back then. Is that a U.S./Canada difference? Or has the price come down in 10 years?

Also, I never had the negative side effects that have been discussed (no grinding teeth, no depression). Yes, it may have lowered my inhibitions, but why Damon, is that listed as a "negative" side effect?


Sweet Penny lower inhibitions, does not sound like a bad thing to me either. But of course some would say I do not have many of those anyway


I think the "lowered inhibitions" effect can make you end up hooking up with someone you wouldn't ordinarily hook up with, or go with them to an unknown location that might cause things to end badly. When you're high, you're extraordinarily friendly and trusting - even with total strangers. Everyone is your new best friend.

As well, you may end up feeling compelled to say emotionally "out there" things to someone such as "I love you", "I forgive you for everything" or "I want to be with you forever" etc. which, after you 'come down' from the high, you may be seriously regretting. Hopefully they were high also and understand it was just an "Ecstasy-Moment". Also if you're prone to drunk-dialling, keep your cellphone out of your hands when you're high or you may embarrass yourself when you remember your conversations the next day...
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Its also relatively inexpensive, costing about 2-10 bucks a pill depending on where you get it.


I haven't done this in over a decade, but I remember spending $25 per pill back then. Is that a U.S./Canada difference? Or has the price come down in 10 years?

Also, I never had the negative side effects that have been discussed (no grinding teeth, no depression). Yes, it may have lowered my inhibitions, but why Damon, is that listed as a "negative" side effect?


Common street price in Canada is $20 in any club. If you have good "contacts" or you buy in bulk, the price can be a lot lower (from $2-10). To buy one pill from any dealer without having any "special deal" is standard $20.
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Took this test years ago and came up INFP. Maybe I'll give it another go and see if a decade's made a difference.


DingDing!

INFP is my ideal match!


** Sitting back and anticipating many spontaneous 'personality changes' and/or INFPs coming out of the woodwork on this thread going forward!
You can't detach your emotions from this guy if he is your ex. That's why you cannot have a fuck-buddy relationship with him. You will end up emotionally involved again. I did this with an ex once... thinking the sex would just be a casual hook-up thing, but even after only a few times, feelings came back at record speed. We ended up getting back together again, and enjoying an even worse round of our first attempt at a relationship. Not saying it's the same kind of situation because I'm not sure why you broke up with him in the first place. My feeling on getting back together with an ex, is that it almost never ends well.. there is a reason you broke up in the first place and that reason will come back to the forefront again.

If you want a fuck-buddy, you have to find someone that you've never dated.... someone that you've met who you feel sexually attracted to, but for whatever reason would not contemplate dating formally (ie. maybe you have nothing in common, maybe some aspect of his personality irritates you, lack of intelligence, social skills, physical attractiveness, age etc.). That is the perfect person to have on speed dial. Once you develop feelings for your fuck buddy you start drifting into territory that will leave you vulnerable to getting hurt again.

In this case I'm not totally convinced you wouldn't be open to another relationship based on your wording, so maybe just talk and find out exactly what his expectations are. You are exes, so communication should be on a better level than if he was just some guy you hook up with at closing time at the clubs.

Good luck!
I enjoy porn both with and without a partner...

One thing to consider AJ, is that she may like something a little harder than you think.

I think the assumption is that women prefer sensual and fairly traditional porn with plot lines. Having watched both 'classy' and 'hardcore' porn, I definitely prefer the latter. I think porn is only so good as the actors convincing you that they are genuinely turned on by whatever they are doing. "Femme porn" often tends to concentrate more on the aesthetics and less on the dirty sex.

My suggestion would be to look up what porn has won AVN awards (they are like the Oscars of the porn world) and find some of those titles.

Check the link below and scroll down to see the best porn flicks/scenes/actors of the last couple of years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVN_Award

If you know she definitely likes more sensual, soft porn, then you can check this link for some 'chick-friendly' flicks.

http://www.pornmoviesforwomen.com/pornmoviesforwomen.htm
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The lollypop thing is a good idea, Lois- I've grinded pretty hard over the course of a night before.



Lollypops, gum, or in some clubs...they come around with a bucket of Mr Freeze popsicles in the middle of the night, when you are hot, and in need of oral relief. I swear I'm never so excited to see a popsicle than when in that state...
It really depends...

If I've just met him, I typically wait until the 2nd or 3rd date. I do like the anticipation of knowing what's ahead, and the build-up...
I also have better sex when I'm feeling that vibe and stimulated on all levels (the mind as well)... it usually takes a second meeting before that happens unless you're on a marathon first date and the chemistry is just too intense to deny. I've done it on the first as well, but that's more the exception to the rule for me.
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Hey friends of Lush your have been helpful and it is greatly appreciated. Especially my good friends Dancing Doll and LadyX..If others still have comments they would also be appreciate. The source of the supply and the quality is unquestionable.

With all the crazy sexual things I have done, seems strange I have not been done this lane before.

One of you mentioned and my have been privately of guys taking more than 1 during a session is that right and safe or even common?

Thanks again


Once you've been doing it for a while, it's pretty common to take more than one... depending on how long one is partying and how high you want to get. Guys tend to take more because body size does tend to have some effect (same as alcohol.. a smaller woman will feel it faster than a guy). You would never take them all at once... but depending on what kind of party you're at and how long you intend to go, every 4 hours might have you wanting to up your dosage. It really depends... I've known guys that have taken 5 over the span of 15 hours. But some people like to be 'higher' than others. As Damon mentioned, your jaw will be grinding like crazy by then though... so it's really a judgement call. IMO, just start with 1/2. You may not even want/need more than that. My first time I only did 1/2 and it was plenty.

Another thing that might help with after effects is to grab some 5-HTP from the nutrition store. Is helps regulate serotonin levels and mood so taking it for a few days afterwards can help (or so I've heard). I've tried it, but not sure if it's really more of a placebo thing. It's commonly recommended on the 'club scene' though.
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MDMA is pure...E is normally laced with shit...blue =horse tranqulisors,white normally speed...Disco biscuits =acid...


Back in the '90s the colours apparently meant something, but now they don't. Or they may only mean something depending on whatever region they're being manufactured in. For example, in my city, blue are speedy, and green are mashy. I wouldn't go strictly based on colour to decide what to take. Myself and most people I know will always prefer the speedy ones. The best I ever had was "blue XXX's"... they were unbelievable... but I can't find them anymore...

There are test kits you can buy to test what is in a particular X pill though. If you get a bad one, you're on a roller coaster ride for a while, so it might be worth doing some research. Or only take one that someone you know has already tried. I always start out with 1/2 and go from there.
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"Some studies indicate that repeated recreational users of MDMA have increased rates of depression and anxiety, even after quitting the drug. In addition to this, some studies have indicated that repeated recreational users of MDMA may have impaired long-term memory and cognitive function. Many factors, including total lifetime MDMA consumption, the duration of abstinence between uses, the environment of use, poly-drug use/abuse, quality of mental health, various lifestyle choices, and predispositions to develop clinical depression and other disorders may contribute to various possible health consequences. MDMA use has been occasionally associated with liver damage, excessive wear of teeth, and (very rarely) hallucinogen persisting perception disorder."
~Wikipedia

And what else is it laced with, right?


Just to put things into perspective. Any drug we ingest has potential side effects (as we all know from the last 10 seconds of any pharmaceutical commercial on TV)... The risks become more pronounced when they are consumed in large doses and/or over longer amounts of time.

Take for example the widely trusted drug "Tylenol" (acetaminophen) as a comparator in terms of scary side effects.

* Acetaminophen causes three times as many cases of liver failure as all other drugs combined, and is the most common cause of acute liver failure in the United States, accounting for 39% of cases.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tylenol

* Tylenol has been linked to higher chances of getting asthma and it has also been credited to chronic obstructive pulmonary disease or COPD for short.
http://healthmad.com/medicine/long-term-effects-of-tylenol/#ixzz0uYs6VqSM

* Chronic alcohol use with Tylenol may also increase the risk of stomach bleeding.
http://www.medicinenet.com/acetaminophen/article.htm

I'm not advocating that recreational drugs should be used, or are 100% safe, but everything carries risks. It's just up to the user to consider how they are using it, their source for obtaining the drug, and what risks they are willing to incur.
I have set up exes a few times. In those cases it was because I had broken up with them, and I felt some residual guilt over how I handled it, and felt like they were not getting on with their lives and still trying to linger in mine.

These set ups have never worked out , of course, but I have done it. I think this sort of thing is ok when you're dealing with exes from casual dating relationships, or relationships that never went into serious emotional connections or actually falling in love.

When things are less emotional, and the break-up ended on good terms, then I don't think there's anything that wrong with setting them up if you think they'd be a good fit for someone you know. If you have any lingering feelings for them, however, it does have the potential to become awkward to have them dating your friend, and potentially re-entering your social circle as someone else's boyfriend.
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I just recently started shaving...the pubic area...I shave it everyday without fail.

My question is this...since I only shave my balls and a three inch area above my cock,
sometimes the hair on my leg irritates my balls, is there any way around this issue?

Other than shaving my legs...
Should I possibly use a powder or a lotion perhaps, something better?

Thanks in advance to all SERIOUS posters.


Use moisturizing shaving cream first before shaving. Make sure you're using a razor for sensitive skin. Don't go over the same area more than once or you run the risk of getting ingrown hairs caused by shaving too close to the skin. Definitely use a lotion for after-shaving (Kiehl's makes a good one)... that will help with the irritation.

Or you could just wax your balls - but go to a professional for that.
People that leave you a voicemail, and then go into stalker-mode and continue calling you every single hour, hoping to catch you 'live'...

Don't they know that I 'call screen'???
"You have it all wrong... You see, that girl that just tried to run us over in the street with her SUV is my ex-girlfriend ... she's crazy."

... As it turned out, she was his "ex"-girlfriend of only 2 hours, and had yet to move her things out of his house at the time of our "date".
Plan A: Go to the gym, or go for a run... then have a pedi-mani and go to the hairdresser for a trim and blow-dry so you're looking gorgeous... and then onward with some girlfriends for skinny-margaritas on a patio! It always cheers me up!

Plan B: Indulge in a luxury shopping purchase.. like really killer shoes! It will distract you!
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I have a friend who is a massage therapist, call her a masseuse and she'll tell you right away that a masseuse provides sexual favours, which she does not do. If you are dealing with the non-sexual kind, which it sounds like you are, they take their jobs very seriously, and would try to make sure you are comfortable with the situation. Not everyone is comfortable being undressed in front of strangers. You said she would get a red face if you wore only a wash cloth. That sounds like her trying to manage the situation in a friendly, but non-confrontational manner. You say she referenced a happy ending. Did she do so after you hinted it, or purely on her own? Each massage therapist has their own rules of how much they will take, and how they handle creeps. My friend will do her best to hint that she's not that type, without making the customer feel awkward for hinting it, but if that fails, she will be very direct about it, and if the customer still doesn't get it, she kicks him out, informs her boss, and that customer is requested to go find a new massage therapist.

Although, if they have a male massage therapist on staff, they'd just get him to work on you after that, which most likely would solve the issue of you trying to get sexual favours from someone who is trying to do their job.


I agree with Jebru.

My last massage (with a male masseuse) had me only covered by a little washcloth too... with full buttocks massage included. It's part of a therapeutic massage... it's not foreplay.
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can anyone else shed some light!? thus far i havent heard what i was hoping to hear...


If you want a Happy Ending... why don't you just go to the right kind of massage parlour and pay for it?

You don't want to date this girl... so I assume you're just looking for a fringe benefit to your massage (less work, all action). Just let her make the move if she's interested in going down that road... But you could offer to buy her a drink first...
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One person's observation - from June 2002.

56 reviews for AFF - it runs about 90% thumbs down. I wonder why that is...I never sexperienced the levels of hatred that these people are indicating they have for that site.

Could it be that some of our expectations exceed reality?


It's always going to be harder for a guy to connect with the kind of girl he's probably hoping for on a site like that... as one of the comments stated, there are 900,000 men registered on that site, with only 90,000 women... those aren't very good odds. When you figure some of those females might be webcam girls or other sex industry girls looking to build their clientele base, you have to wade through a lot of profiles as a guy to find a genuinely decent horny little slut who is game to meet up!

Women can go into any bar and just find a guy to hook up with if it's just about sex, so they are probably less inclined to look on the internet.

I think the same sex connections on AFF are probably a lot more successful since if you're bi-curious or secretly-bisexual, you're more likely to want to find a more discreet way of finding like-minded people.
House music... anything by Tiesto, Deep Dish, David Guetta, Armin van Buuren, Paul van Dyk or Hed Kandi.
The heart-rate keeps in time with the beats and I can really get into 'the zone' with a cardio-heavy workout.
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When you are partying with people that are not in your signifcant other group, you need to have a clear head to protect yourself. There are enough risks out there today and the addition of another substance only increases that risk.



This is a good point- and all I'll say is that in most situations in my life now, I don't do it. In some situations I still will, and am probably not always careful enough.

Whatever you try, girls- be careful up front, you can't be nearly as careful on some drugs once you take them.



I agree... I've actually never hooked up with strangers when using recreational drugs. The sex I've had has always been with a boyfriend or known partner. I'm always extra careful when it comes to sex when in that state and environment.

I also know of many female friends that have not been so careful and have had some unfortunate experiences... although, not that different than girls I know who have gotten wasted and also had unfortunate sexual experiences.

I think the key is that regardless of whatever you're doing... use it as an enhancer to your state of being... not as something to obliterate it to the point where you don't know what you're doing. You need to know what you're doing in order to have great sex anyway!
Like Xuani, I have tried sex on various recreational drugs during my party days. Drugs do cause an altered psychological state and can cause you to experience sex in a completely different way... whether it be enhancing the physical sensations or intensifying the connection between you and your partner (although sometimes on an artificial level). But overall, yes, I've enjoyed experimenting and having sex. It's a different kind of sexual experience, and I'm a naturally curious girl and have enjoyed the heightened physical sensations of certain recreational drugs. In fact, sex is way better on some of those drugs, than it will ever be on alcohol. Drunk sex is messy and unsatisfying a lot of the time. My favourite drug/sex combo would be pot or MDMA (a more pure form of ecstasy). I also enjoy sex if you're rolling on some good X, although as Xuani says, it's hard for a guy to come while on X... which is not such a bad thing.. it just gives you more time to play.

The best sex is sober and with a partner you are connected to obviously... the rest is just experimenting and exploring some new physical and sexual sensations. These drugs mentioned tend to keep you more alert and focused on the moment (and the person) and IMO are in a different class of experience than getting drunk and having sex (which still seems to be rather socially acceptable).
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Would you have sex with a man mainly because he made you laugh


My answer would be no...I wouldn't have sex with him mainly because he made me laugh.

I love a sense of humour, and if I was attracted to a guy, and I find out he's packing some sarcastic wit, then I'm far more likely to want more.

But, if he's just the funny joker at the party, it's not going to cause me to have uncontrollable lust for him, just because he cracks me up. It will probably just make me want to hang out and banter and joke around with him some more (potential 'friend zone' flag if there is no sexual attraction already working).

There's got to be more to it than that... but a wicked sense of humour would definitely start to tip the scales in his favour if there was a basic level of physical attraction there already...
I also tried it twice and got H.G. Wells and then Stephen King...

It seems a bit random?